Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[ADVILLAFAN]

I think of Werner as an upmarket Scott Hogan

[cdbearsfan]

I like some of the cartoons he makes with his siblings.

[Monty]

I meant that people were making plans with Jack staying in mind, not that they were too emotionally cheerful. In fact, in my view the absence of Jack would make Tammy an even more perplexing signing, as we would need dynamic, creative contributions from everywhere to replace Jack, and it sort of wouldn't make sense to invest that much in a perfectly decent but certainly limited penalty-box no. 9.

It could work if we were in the Championship, or if we played three at the back and had two centre-forwards for that reason (FIGHT ME), but there's no other front-foot system in which Tammy could play in a 2. He's not mobile or creative enough for a midfield diamond where the forwards have to do a lot of work wide, and a flat 4-4-2 is a defensive system. My thing about tactical flexibility is the main reason I'm not so keen on Tammy, if I'm honest.

[SoccerHQ]

I've mentioned him before but Jared Bowen would probably be ideal for us currently.

Mid 20s, already relative proven in premier league and plays on left and can fill in upfront when required.

If West Ham are stuggling to afford likes of Abraham and Lingard possible they could cash in on him to get someone who can play upfront as they have decent number of wide forwards so might be worth testing them with a bid.

Not sort of signing that's going to shift another 1k season tickets but probably for where we are the sort who can get us another 2-3 places in the league given West Ham have risen about 10 places up the table since he signed.

[Toronto Villa]

Jared Bowen would cost north of £40m for sure. Why would West Ham, who are in the Europa sell to us? He’s a starting winger for them. And he’s done really well. Shame we couldn’t have got him instead.

[TelfordVilla]

Christ alive. Dont go for that neco William's. He is awful.

[eamonn]

Jared's a Villan but he's chosen his claret and blue, and they're happy with him there anyway.

[Demitri_C]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

You want to play a big-man-fast-man 4-4-2 with long balls? I mean, I kinda want to finish above 15th.

Im a bit confused, where did i say that we would play 4-4-2? And also what evidence do you have that smith would play hoofball?he never plays this way unless he chasing a goal late on.

Also lets say watkins geta3 injured who do we have davis with a mighty one premier league goal, ans a long teem injured wesley.

[Demitri_C]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

You want to play a big-man-fast-man 4-4-2 with long balls? I mean, I kinda want to finish above 15th.

He’s not saying that is he? He’s saying that’s the last time we had two good strikers at the club.

👏👏👏

[Monty]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

You want to play a big-man-fast-man 4-4-2 with long balls? I mean, I kinda want to finish above 15th.

Im a bit confused, where did i say that we would play 4-4-2? And also what evidence do you have that smith would play hoofball?he never plays this way unless he chasing a goal late on.

Also lets say watkins geta3 injured who do we have davis with a mighty one premier league goal, ans a long teem injured wesley.

Sorry Demitri, I was being very harsh, and the injury point is the best one in favour of signing a Tammy.

My problem with the Gabby-Carew analogy was twofold: 1) that that was a time when we played football that was needlessly behind the times; and 2) (relatedly) that you can't really play two all-out number 9s in the same system without ceding control of the midfield, going defensive and going direct. Which can work in certain circumstances, but just isn't where I think we're headed (and as you say Smith doesn't do that in any case).

[Demitri_C]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

You want to play a big-man-fast-man 4-4-2 with long balls? I mean, I kinda want to finish above 15th.

Im a bit confused, where did i say that we would play 4-4-2? And also what evidence do you have that smith would play hoofball?he never plays this way unless he chasing a goal late on.

Also lets say watkins geta3 injured who do we have davis with a mighty one premier league goal, ans a long teem injured wesley.

Sorry Demitri, I was being very harsh, and the injury point is the best one in favour of signing a Tammy.

My problem with the Gabby-Carew analogy was twofold: 1) that that was a time when we played football that was needlessly behind the times; and 2) (relatedly) that you can't really play two all-out number 9s in the same system without ceding control of the midfield, going defensive and going direct. Which can work in certain circumstances, but just isn't where I think we're headed (and as you say Smith doesn't do that in any case).

No worries monty mate 👍

Yeah the games changed now you cant really play two up top unless yoir chasing a goal last 10 minutes. But i do think ollie could play on a shoulder on the left

Ollie left

Jack in the hole

Buendia on the right

Tammy up top

Mcginn/ luiz holding

Thats a frightening attack

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Ollie left

Jack in the hole

Buendia on the right

Tammy up top

Mcginn/ luiz holding

Thats a frightening attack

Or it's Dean Smith sacked when/if it doesn't come off. By my count that's 4 out of 6 players playing out of position.
I'm with Monty on this one, Tammy is too limited and doesn't do enough. Last summer I thought Tammy and Ollie were very similar players, both pretty lethal in the 6 yard box. I was half right. Ollie brings far more to the party.

[Ads]

I would prefer the 21 year old Argentine Gary Shaw mind.

[cdbearsfan]

Watkins is brilliant, but playing him virtually every minute of every match we would burn him out eventually.

[Tayls_7]

Ollie left

Jack in the hole

Buendia on the right

Tammy up top

Mcginn/ luiz holding

Thats a frightening attack

Or it's Dean Smith sacked when/if it doesn't come off. By my count that's 4 out of 6 players playing out of position.
I'm with Monty on this one, Tammy is too limited and doesn't do enough. Last summer I thought Tammy and Ollie were very similar players, both pretty lethal in the 6 yard box. I was half right. Ollie brings far more to the party.

Someone has said 'in the hole' and there's no sign of Mick McCarthy.  This site is going to the dogs.