Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[SamTheMouse]

I'd rather a striker who can play wide as well, so we can rotate a bit.

Anyway, I don't know how much we have to spend, but if we're going to blow 40 or even 50 million on one player, right now I'd rather it were a top class central midfielder, because we don't dominate opponents enough in that area.

[cdbearsfan]

We've been linked with Ward Prowse so clearly the board think we can strengthen there, too. It doesn't need to be either/or.

[SamTheMouse]

That's true.

[cdbearsfan]

Well, it depends on a) your assessment of Tammy, and b) your assessment of our squad and how much we have to spend on it. I don't see the value in Tammy unless you plan to start him as your first-choice 9 and play a style that suits him, neither of which we'd be doing. I'd prefer another striker who really can also play wide, a Mane type, who could sit on the bench, swap in for Ollie or play wide with Ollie. For me that's the hole in the squad, and without nostalgia I don't think many on here would be suggesting Tammy.

No nostalgia from me. I've consistently said the clamour to re-sign Tuanzebe is ludicrous. I think you can always find a space in your squad for a player that scores shitloads of goals, like Tammy does.

[Monty]

Well, in my opinion he misses absolutely tons of chances and doesn't really contribute anything else. This is where we differ.

[PaulWinch again]

Scores a lot of goals though.

[SamTheMouse]

The thing is, surely if we want to be challenging for the top four, we shouldn't be looking at players deemed not good enough by the teams currently in the top four. You can slag off Werner's finishing, for example, but he played in - and won - the Champions League final, whereas Tammy wasn't even on the bench.

[cdbearsfan]

Well, in my opinion he misses absolutely tons of chances and doesn't really contribute anything else. This is where we differ.

He scores shitloads of goals. That isn't opinion.

[Monty]

Timo Werner who scored 78 in 127 games for RB Leipzig. Yes he had an increasingly comedic mare with Chelsea last season, but he's thoroughly done it at top division level.

Tammy was streaky, then the goals dried up, and he doesn't do anything else. Come on CD, don't do the 'my opinion is correct' stuff, I can see the goal record but I think there are a bunch of mitigations and I'm just not all that convinced all round.

[cdbearsfan]

The thing is, surely if we want to be challenging for the top four, we shouldn't be looking at players deemed not good enough by the teams currently in the top four. You can slag off Werner's finishing, for example, but he played in - and won - the Champions League final, whereas Tammy wasn't even on the bench.

On that basis Liverpool shouldn't have signed Salah, Man City shouldn't have signed De Bruyne. If one manager doesn't like a particular player it doesnt mean ever other club should write him off.

[cdbearsfan]

Timo Werner who scored 78 in 127 games for RB Leipzig. Yes he had an increasingly comedic mare with Chelsea last season, but he's thoroughly done it at top division level.

Tammy was streaky, then the goals dried up, and he doesn't do anything else. Come on CD, don't do the 'my opinion is correct' stuff, I can see the goal record but I think there are a bunch of mitigations and I'm just not all that convinced all round.

A goal record isn't a matter of opinion, is it?

[Demitri_C]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

[Monty]

Timo Werner who scored 78 in 127 games for RB Leipzig. Yes he had an increasingly comedic mare with Chelsea last season, but he's thoroughly done it at top division level.

Tammy was streaky, then the goals dried up, and he doesn't do anything else. Come on CD, don't do the 'my opinion is correct' stuff, I can see the goal record but I think there are a bunch of mitigations and I'm just not all that convinced all round.

A goal record isn't a matter of opinion, is it?

How you interpret it is. Darren Bent for instance, scored a bunch but whenever he played a full season his team would overall score fewer. You can't just take the name of the player next to the 'goal' figure and graft it onto another team by signing him. Football is alchemy, it's difficult to predict, and the evidence of my eyes tells me that Tammy scores some, misses more, and does nothing else.

I note as well that Werner cost £48m, not the £70m+ mentioned earlier.

[Monty]

Ill be doing cartwheels of we sign tammy.

When was the last time we had two quality strikers at the club? Its been years

Gabby carew days?

You want to play a big-man-fast-man 4-4-2 with long balls? I mean, I kinda want to finish above 15th.

[Hairbandinho]

Has nobody mentioned the possibility of Signing Abraham might be due to having to change formation and style of play to a two striker system, working on the basis of Grealish leaving perhaps? Why must it be 1 striker all the time.