Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Hockley Lion]

Don't worry. Jack's tapping up Harry Kane as we speak 😊.

[SoccerHQ]

I'd be questioning why Everton, a team we should be aiming to finish above next season, couldn't get rid quickly enough. It's a no from me. I mean I'd rather have him that Chris Wood but that's like saying I'd rather be punched in the stomach than kicked in the bollocks.

Yeah I thought he looked really poor when he came on v us at Goodison. To me he's lost motivation given he was close to going back to Man. United in Jan 2020, didn't do much for Bournemouth in their relegation fight and just bench warming at Everton.

Had no idea he was already 29 aswell, thought he was only 24-25 so surely all those dismissing Wilson last summer on age grounds the same applies here aswell? Yes he's on a free but he'll just demand stupid wages and be tough to shift if we give him 3-4 year deal. We've had a few of those in last decade.

[dave.woodhall]

Bring him in for a year while we see if Wesley or Keinan van Basten are going to be worth keeping. 

[SoccerHQ]

The problem is if we sign another forward then there's no chance Davis or Wesley get the time to see if they can come good so do we write them both (or at least one) off this summer and if so how good does the incoming player have to be to justify that and how long term a signing does it need to be?
Writing off either to make space for Wood or King would be as disappointing (for me) as just going in with what we have. That's why I keep saying I'd prefer someone who can play in a few different positions to come in as the cover for Wakins. We'll be playing with 3 or 4 attacking players and currently have Grealish, Buendia, Watkins and Traore that would expect to start regularly in those spots, a 5th player who could expect 20-25 league starts but spread across 2-3 of those positions means we can still give game time to AEG, Wes, Davis, JPB and Trez as well as being able to absorb an injury or 2.

Yes, I get your point and I'd add Chuk to your list of players ready and able to play a part in the goals-grab. Who is the Mr Versatility we need, do you think?
Davis needs to go out on loan, IMO: he needs a regular stream of starts where he can build his game and come back either stronger and / or at least more valuable in the transfer market.

I'd be ok with letting one of Davis or Wes go out on loan until Christmas, both of them could do with a run of games.

As for who I'm not sure, there's lots of players I like the look of that I think could work but they don't come cheaply and the proven ones will have a lot of options. I have said Malen, Gouiri and Thuram a few times though and they'd be my top 3 choices.

Thuram close to joining Spurs apparently.

Seeing as signing 29 year olds is seemingly allowed now if the King interest is genuine I actually think Lucas Moura could be a good option to look at as seems Spurs want to move him on.

Yes I know he's inconsistant as feck but when he's good he's very good, would given us some good pace on the right, chips in with goals and should be a big name and been there and done it player we could reasonably attract at this point in time so if he wants to stay in premier league we should be looking at him.

[Dave]

(on Josh King...)

I don't see why he would say yes to anything that we'd want to offer him. He's got enough credit in the bank to get a three year contract somewhere. And he only has one of those left in his career at 29.

Palace need a new team. Watford aren't poor. Newcastle love chucking wages at former Bournemouth players. Norwich need a wide forward. Arsenal can't be all that choosy these days.

He can get £6-7m out or someone in wages, and he's probably worth it for someone out there. Just not us.

[SoccerHQ]

maybe not but, the point i'm making is an equivalent now like a Giroud would expect a bit more than 10 minutes at the end of game and a run in the cups

I think the difference next season is having a back up striker DS is confident to put on at around the 60th minute mark. Or even earlier even if he is allergic to half time subs.

When you look at all Davis sub cameos most of them last season were after 75th mark and many times we'd already put on two subs before him so he really was a last resort option most of the time.

One game that sticks in most of our minds is Burnley away. Dyche put on Vydra at 75th minute mark, we put on Davis in the 88th minute even though the third happened in the 79th minute.

The Fulham game he came on at 67th minute and that's rare example of him getting long enough to make serious impact so we need that faith in backup striker much more next season. If Wes can get his fitness up he can also be an option for that aswell as we can have more than 1 striker on the bench if 9 subs is continuing.

[algy]

Being linked to an £8m move for Watford midfielder Will Hughes.

[paul_e]

The problem is if we sign another forward then there's no chance Davis or Wesley get the time to see if they can come good so do we write them both (or at least one) off this summer and if so how good does the incoming player have to be to justify that and how long term a signing does it need to be?
Writing off either to make space for Wood or King would be as disappointing (for me) as just going in with what we have. That's why I keep saying I'd prefer someone who can play in a few different positions to come in as the cover for Wakins. We'll be playing with 3 or 4 attacking players and currently have Grealish, Buendia, Watkins and Traore that would expect to start regularly in those spots, a 5th player who could expect 20-25 league starts but spread across 2-3 of those positions means we can still give game time to AEG, Wes, Davis, JPB and Trez as well as being able to absorb an injury or 2.

Yes, I get your point and I'd add Chuk to your list of players ready and able to play a part in the goals-grab. Who is the Mr Versatility we need, do you think?
Davis needs to go out on loan, IMO: he needs a regular stream of starts where he can build his game and come back either stronger and / or at least more valuable in the transfer market.

I'd be ok with letting one of Davis or Wes go out on loan until Christmas, both of them could do with a run of games.

As for who I'm not sure, there's lots of players I like the look of that I think could work but they don't come cheaply and the proven ones will have a lot of options. I have said Malen, Gouiri and Thuram a few times though and they'd be my top 3 choices.

Thuram close to joining Spurs apparently.

Seeing as signing 29 year olds is seemingly allowed now if the King interest is genuine I actually think Lucas Moura could be a good option to look at as seems Spurs want to move him on.

Yes I know he's inconsistant as feck but when he's good he's very good, would given us some good pace on the right, chips in with goals and should be a big name and been there and done it player we could reasonably attract at this point in time so if he wants to stay in premier league we should be looking at him.

I've seen that but I'm not sure, who is signing him for starters? Would you want to be a manager going into a new club who has very little to spend (given spurs are, to quote Ads "skint pricks") and have signed someone when they didn't have a manager for most of the budget?

[SoccerHQ]

Being linked to an £8m move for Watford midfielder Will Hughes.

That's just a story planted I reckon to put some pressure on Southampton. Seemed the Buendia deal quickly came together when that story appeared about 10 days ago in a few of the papers we wanted to sign Smith Rowe so saying to the selling club we have more than one target so if you really want the money sell him to us pronto.

Hughes and Ward Prowse signed in the same summer would be very odd as then we'd have endless 8 type midfielders in the squad so doubt it's a true link while there's obviously something in the Ward Prowse link.

[paul_e]

For me it's a no to Will Hughes, he looked a real prospect when he broke through but he hasn't developed enough to be of interest to a team with ambitions to break into the top 6. If anything I can see him being an option for Southampton to replace JWP if we signed him.

[pauliewalnuts]

Isn't Hughes also a big racist?

[Toronto Villa]

Isn't Hughes also a big racist?

No. He has a lot of very socially conscious posts on Twitter for example that give the impression he’s the very opposite of that. He retweets a lot of speakers on racism and promotes BLM. He also a lot of charity work with some food banks. There was a story a while back that he followed the EDL. I don’t know if that’s true but you can follow someone and not support what they do, but to educate yourself on the other side of the argument and be in a position to be critical of it. So on the surface at least racism doesn’t appear to be a card he plays.

As for his football I’ve never thought that much of him and outside of when he first broke on to the scene has he really done a lot? I would like to think there are better players out there for whatever he might cost.

[Sexual Ealing]

"I hear you're a racist now, Father"

[olaftab]

Being linked to an £8m move for Watford midfielder Will Hughes.

No thanks. Howard Hughes would be better in his current state.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

"I hear you're a racist now, Father"

Feckin Greeks!!