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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2235 on: June 04, 2021, 03:52:30 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2236 on: June 04, 2021, 03:56:43 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

I didn't know that. That's a definite positive.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2237 on: June 04, 2021, 03:57:56 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

I absolutely make us favourites to sign him. Look at the trajectories of both sides. We are firmly on the way up. The bottom can fall out of Arsenal at any time. If they were in Europe I'd give them the edge but right now, I'd give us the lead albeit slight.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2238 on: June 04, 2021, 04:06:02 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

This for me too - plus Emi has been with him for the last week and could be first hand extolling our virtues - he will have seen him finally make his Argentina debut, they've been playing table tennis together for goodness sake!!! 

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2239 on: June 04, 2021, 04:06:22 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

I absolutely make us favourites to sign him. Look at the trajectories of both sides. We are firmly on the way up. The bottom can fall out of Arsenal at any time. If they were in Europe I'd give them the edge but right now, I'd give us the lead albeit slight.

You're only setting yourself up for a fall now, you'll be gutted when you see him interviewed saying how much he loved 'Fever Pitch' as a kid and always bought The Angel Islington in Monopoly first.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2240 on: June 04, 2021, 04:17:22 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

I absolutely make us favourites to sign him. Look at the trajectories of both sides. We are firmly on the way up. The bottom can fall out of Arsenal at any time. If they were in Europe I'd give them the edge but right now, I'd give us the lead albeit slight.

You're only setting yourself up for a fall now, you'll be gutted when you see him interviewed saying how much he loved 'Fever Pitch' as a kid and always bought The Angel Islington in Monopoly first.

haha, what a great book though even through the experiences of an Arsenal fan. I don't neccessarily miss all of the experiences of that era as an Indian kid going to games in the 80's but there was something very romantic and real about football back then

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2241 on: June 04, 2021, 04:21:14 PM »
Fever Pitch was horrible, pretentious shite.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2242 on: June 04, 2021, 04:22:52 PM »
Added to that, we can certainly outbid Arsenal on the fee. They do have a tendency to offer daft wages though, and for a young Argentinian you'd imagine that they'd have a much greater pull than we do. I have a feeling that agents and players' overriding priories when making these decisions are the value of the contract and (a distant second) the prestige of the club, rather than the long-term health of the organisation. I'd make them favourites.

He shares the same agent as Emi Martinez. His agent knows how happy Martinez is. He knows how to do a deal with Villa. He knows the failings of Arsenal. I'm not giving up yet.

Do they? Didnt know that.

Will definitely help then

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2243 on: June 04, 2021, 04:26:40 PM »
Fever Pitch was horrible, pretentious shite.

In your opinion. I enjoyed it. Others did too I'm sure.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2244 on: June 04, 2021, 04:26:43 PM »
Fever Pitch was horrible, pretentious shite.

Not read the book in years, wasn’t my recollection but there you go. It may have been a bit nu-fan for some but it rang some chords for me as a middle class white boy from the shires. I always got the feeling it was more a book about obsession than being a football supporter.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2245 on: June 04, 2021, 04:39:06 PM »
A reporter in Turkey claims buendias preferred choice is Arsenal.

Arsenal are a sinking ship under Kroenke.  Why anyone would want to go to them these days is beyond  me.

Most people would prefer Arsenal, if we are honest. This is why we need galactico signings to show we mean business. That "sinking ship" still wins a trophy every two to three years.

Our owners should be convincing players that we can surpass them in the next few years, if not next season. But doesn't seem particularly unlikely that a player would prefer Arsenal over us if he hasn't even spoken to our owners.

I’d agree with that. Even if Arsenal are sinking I suspect that for now most players given a straight choice would pick Arsenal.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2246 on: June 04, 2021, 04:43:09 PM »
If the agent bit is true that could help.  I still think he'll pick Arsenal though.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2247 on: June 04, 2021, 04:46:09 PM »
Fever Pitch was horrible, pretentious shite.

Not read the book in years, wasn’t my recollection but there you go. It may have been a bit nu-fan for some but it rang some chords for me as a middle class white boy from the shires. I always got the feeling it was more a book about obsession than being a football supporter.

I couldn't get beyond him never going to an away match, not caring if other supporters were priced out or clubs went out of business, missing a cup final to go to an awards dinner and giving up altogether when he lived an hour away. He probably influenced Tim Lovejoy as well.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2248 on: June 04, 2021, 04:51:07 PM »
If the agent bit is true that could help.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2249 on: June 04, 2021, 04:52:18 PM »
And everything bad in the last 20 years, the economic crash, the rise of the far right, global warming, Pritti Patel, war, famine and pestilence, they all go back to Lovejoy.

 


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