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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2025 on: May 31, 2021, 08:45:47 AM »
From Belotti's wiki... An acrobatic player, he has also scored several overhead kick goals in his career.

Get him in!

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2026 on: May 31, 2021, 08:48:45 AM »
Yeah, looks totally different from Watkins as well in style of play. If he's really going for 15m to Roma, and Torino want 25m for him, it would be rude not to help them out.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2027 on: May 31, 2021, 09:07:01 AM »
The worry i have with Buendia is that although he had a great season in the championship, the season before in the Prem he only managed one goal (if reports are correct). Can he handle the extra pressure?

I think so. It was a struggling Norwich side and it wasn't his fault Pukki forgot his shooting boots that season. He still managed 7 assists which is higher than El Ghazi and Trez have managed in two seasons (4 and 2) and Traore last season (6). I'm sure Ollie Watkins would appreciate better service almost as much as Buendia would playing in a better side.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2028 on: May 31, 2021, 09:24:16 AM »
The worry i have with Buendia is that although he had a great season in the championship, the season before in the Prem he only managed one goal (if reports are correct). Can he handle the extra pressure?

I think so. It was a struggling Norwich side and it wasn't his fault Pukki forgot his shooting boots that season. He still managed 7 assists which is higher than El Ghazi and Trez have managed in two seasons (4 and 2) and Traore last season (6). I'm sure Ollie Watkins would appreciate better service almost as much as Buendia would playing in a better side.

My memory was that his stats were very good that season, either his XG was high or he played the pass before the assist.  Pukki stopped finishing chances in the second half of the season being a reason he wasn’t more widely recognised.

Quick google:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/22706/11976592/premier-league-unsung-heroes-norwichs-emiliano-buendia

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2029 on: May 31, 2021, 09:24:32 AM »
The worry i have with Buendia is that although he had a great season in the championship, the season before in the Prem he only managed one goal (if reports are correct). Can he handle the extra pressure?
I think so. It was a struggling Norwich side and it wasn't his fault Pukki forgot his shooting boots that season. He still managed 7 assists which is higher than El Ghazi and Trez have managed in two seasons (4 and 2) and Traore last season (6). I'm sure Ollie Watkins would appreciate better service almost as much as Buendia would playing in a better side.
Buendia would slot in just fine, and offer more than we have. The only issue for me would be value-for-money vs other options, if the Turnipmunchers get greedy on his valuation.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2030 on: May 31, 2021, 09:31:21 AM »
We should be shopping smart this summer. There must be clubs with quality international players all over Europe who need to offload them to balance the books. Buying players in the one league virtually financially fireproof isn't good VFM.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2031 on: May 31, 2021, 09:37:15 AM »
Tuanzebe is always injured and wasn't even that good in the first place. The obsession with him is bizarre.

It really is. If he hadn't played for us briefly, nobody here would even have heard of him, let alone want to sign him.

Exactly.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2032 on: May 31, 2021, 09:40:46 AM »
Well Tuanzebe managed 19 appearances this season with the league runners up which is more than the likes of Engels and Hause managed

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2033 on: May 31, 2021, 09:41:24 AM »
The worry i have with Buendia is that although he had a great season in the championship, the season before in the Prem he only managed one goal (if reports are correct). Can he handle the extra pressure?

I think so. It was a struggling Norwich side and it wasn't his fault Pukki forgot his shooting boots that season. He still managed 7 assists which is higher than El Ghazi and Trez have managed in two seasons (4 and 2) and Traore last season (6). I'm sure Ollie Watkins would appreciate better service almost as much as Buendia would playing in a better side.

My memory was that his stats were very good that season, either his XG was high or he played the pass before the assist.  Pukki stopped finishing chances in the second half of the season being a reason he wasn’t more widely recognised.

Quick google:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/22706/11976592/premier-league-unsung-heroes-norwichs-emiliano-buendia

Your memory serves you well, Dante. That's an interesting read.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2034 on: May 31, 2021, 09:52:19 AM »
Yeah, looks totally different from Watkins as well in style of play. If he's really going for 15m to Roma, and Torino want 25m for him, it would be rude not to help them out.

Pretty sure he was league top scorer or very close to it a 2/3 seasons ago and was reportedly commanding a fee of £70m +. He’s not hit those heights again but Torino haven’t been great. Certainly an interesting shout at those prices.

Edit. According to wiki it was 2016/17 where he scored 26 in 35
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2035 on: May 31, 2021, 09:56:23 AM »
Yeah, looks totally different from Watkins as well in style of play. If he's really going for 15m to Roma, and Torino want 25m for him, it would be rude not to help them out.

Pretty sure he was league top scorer or very close to it a 2/3 seasons ago and was reportedly commanding a fee of £70m +. He’s not hit those heights again but Torino haven’t been great. Certainly an interesting shout at those prices.

yeah seems a bargain. whether we'd get a sniff is another matter, but if he was offered to spurs and west ham were interested we should at least be looking at him. Could play him as a 2nd striker with Watkins up front which you couldn't do with Abraham. If Watkins was injured, stick him up front or bring Wesley in with Davies as the specialist no-scoring option on the bench.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2036 on: May 31, 2021, 10:26:56 AM »
Well Tuanzebe managed 19 appearances this season with the league runners up which is more than the likes of Engels and Hause managed

He missed twenty games through injury, which seems about standard for him (he also missed twenty last season and twenty-four the year before that)...

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/axel-tuanzebe/verletzungen/spieler/342046

He only made nine appearances in the league including the final two when they were resting their better players for the Europa League Final having already secured a top four spot. So I'm not sure "played nineteen games for a team that finished second" is as high a recommendation as it could be.

If we are after extra defenders, there must be better options out there with a far less off-putting injury record.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2037 on: May 31, 2021, 10:31:50 AM »
Buendia looked good in his season in the Premier league with Norwich. I wanted us tio sign him last season off the back of that, and he looks to have improved even more now. He is more likely to step up than Oliie was, given he has already shown good form in the premier league. Be very happy if we signed him. Also like the look of the Burnley player linked, though do not think we need both (I rate El Goalzi and Traore and  think both will continue to improve).

Also see replacing Wesley with Tammy as an absolute no-brainer. Would send Wesley out on loan to see if he can gain form and prove fitness.

Think we need another defensive midfielder and a back up for left back too though. Both Marvellous and Luiz have something to offer, but both are inconsistent. An older head whilst they come through would be ideal.


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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2038 on: May 31, 2021, 10:40:05 AM »
Well Tuanzebe managed 19 appearances this season with the league runners up which is more than the likes of Engels and Hause managed

He missed twenty games through injury, which seems about standard for him (he also missed twenty last season and twenty-four the year before that)...

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/axel-tuanzebe/verletzungen/spieler/342046

He only made nine appearances in the league including the final two when they were resting their better players for the Europa League Final having already secured a top four spot. So I'm not sure "played nineteen games for a team that finished second" is as high a recommendation as it could be.

If we are after extra defenders, there must be far better options out there with a far less off-putting injury record.

Still beats our options which are a 26 year old right back who was palmed off to France in favour of Elmo, and 2 centre halves, one of which hasn't played for a year and neither really covered themselves in glory when we came up. I'm sure there is better options, but probably more expensive at least in this country so you either pay cash/targett type money for 2 reserves or go the whole hog and replace them which is more. Tuanzebe would at least gives us a player who can do two jobs and pick up enough appearances to keep him happy and possibly challenge for a 1st team place

There's been people on here for the last 6 months muttering about "we need to be challenging for Europe next season or Jack won't stay" etc.. etc... Well part of that is having half decent reserves and the possibility of one of our defence getting crocked and the current reserves coming in doesn't fill me with confidence. They basically played all the games last season apart from Elmo who's gone now.

« Last Edit: May 31, 2021, 10:42:04 AM by sickbeggar »

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #2039 on: May 31, 2021, 10:40:34 AM »
Even taking out that one outstanding season, Belotti has a scoring rate of 1 in two and a half and a little bit. Never heard of him before today, I've never knowingly seen him play, but I will be crushed, crushed I tells ya, if we don't get him in.

 


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