Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[SoccerHQ]

Aha too many Adama Traores, pretty sure there's one playing for Mali and a few called that in the French league.

What I meant is on the "other" Villa forum there's many on there who just think Saint Maximn is a Adama Traore clone e.g. just head down 100mph player who just whacks crosses against the first man all the time and lacks composure infront of goal. From what I've seen of ASM he has far more to his game and a pretty decent end product and he would improve us.

On a long term contract at Newcastle though so he wouldn't come cheap. Think Newcastle signed him for 18m from Nice so we need to be identifying that type in a decent european league.

Bert Traore cost that amount, he needs a pre season in how to not take 30 touches before deciding whether to pass or shot and then we have a really player on our hands given his stats have been decent for debut season.

[Dave]

Aha too many Adama Traores, pretty sure there's one playing for Mali and a few called that in the French league.

What I meant is on the "other" Villa forum there's many on there who just think Saint Maximn is a Adama Traore clone e.g. just head down 100mph player who just whacks crosses against the first man all the time and lacks composure infront of goal. From what I've seen of ASM he has far more to his game and a pretty decent end product and he would improve us.

On a long term contract at Newcastle though so he wouldn't come cheap. Think Newcastle signed him for 18m from Nice so we need to be identifying that type in a decent european league.

Bert Traore cost that amount, he needs a pre season in how to not take 30 touches before deciding whether to pass or shot and then we have a really player on our hands given his stats have been decent for debut season.

Which pretty much brings us full circle to the original point - doesn't he play in the basically the same way (will do three things per game which get the crowd applauding, ten things which will make the crowd angry, and one thing every ten games that will be on an end-of-season YouTube highlights reel) as OUR Traore?

I mean, he's scored six league goals for Newcastle since he joined two years ago. Traore scored seven league goals this season. Given he'd cost twice what Bertrand cost us from Lyon, where is the upgrade?

There must be something I'm missing, I'm just not sure what.

[ROBBO]

I would be suprised if we were chasing players of the Maddison ilk, because we are building a team not buying one. I would take a guess that we are looking overseas to plunder the clubs with money problems, there are quite a few of them.

[brontebilly]

Still want Saint-Maximin. Still think he's gettable.

Is he *that* different to Traore? Doesn't he do more or less the same thing, dribble round a couple more players and be injured a bit more?

I mean, I wouldn't be upset if we bought him. But I'm not sure we'd really be spending £30m on much of an upgrade.

When he came back from covid he transformed Newcastle. He has a bit more craft to his game than Traore (either of them) for me.

[steamer]

What about the guy they have on loan from Arsenal
Been banging in goals
Arsenal could be a good feeder club for us

[sickbeggar]

Aye, I mentioned him yesterday. It's hard to tell from the limited amount I've seen from him but if he's available for 20m then he fits the young promising player criteria. Whether Arsenal would let him go I don't know but i'm sure they want to splurge their usual 60m or so on the usual anonymous signings from abroad.

[SamTheMouse]

From what I've seen of Saint-Maximin, he's a bit like Newcastle's version of Grealish, in that they are very ordinary without him, and much, much better with him.

Admittedly his goal return is nothing to write home about, but he's playing in a Steve Bruce team, so what do you expect?

[sickbeggar]

Can't see Newcastle selling him unless they got a ridiculous offer. He's got 4 years left on his contract and the grief they'd get for selling him wouldn't be worth the money.

[VILLA MOLE]

What about the guy they have on loan from Arsenal
Been banging in goals
Arsenal could be a good feeder club for us

Arteta has said he is going back to Arsenal and will be in contention for them

[john e]

If we signed Madison along with Grealish Cash Mings Watkins Ramsey Doug etc
We would have the best looking set of chaps ever assembled in the football team

[Drummond]

Can't see Newcastle selling him unless they got a ridiculous offer. He's got 4 years left on his contract and the grief they'd get for selling him wouldn't be worth the money.

Mike Ashley takes shit from everywhere about everything and doesn't give a toss.

[ChicagoLion]

Of course he would sell Maxim for the right price.
Not sure he is what we need though.

[Risso]

If we signed Madison along with Grealish Cash Mings Watkins Ramsey Doug etc
We would have the best looking set of chaps ever assembled in the football team

You missed off Targett and MCGinn. Cruel.

[sickbeggar]

Of course he would sell Maxim for the right price.
Not sure he is what we need though.

yeah but what's the right price? Can't imagine us sanctioning what Ashley would want because he's not worth that currently.

[eamonn]

If we signed Madison along with Grealish Cash Mings Watkins Ramsey Doug etc
We would have the best looking set of chaps ever assembled in the football team

You missed off Targett and MCGinn. Cruel.

There's a reason their nicknames are Tigger and Meatball.