Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[chrisw1]

I also think Tammy is more likley to end up at West Ham.  If we'd had a better second half of the season it would have been much easier to attract top players.

[Footy-Vill]

Well no as the manager said they couldn't afford the fee
So actually he would only be more likely here and if loan then I think maybe West Ham can have a chance but they don't have the money like Villa.

I read we have a £250mil war chest which is delightful.
I don't see West Ham with same financials and Moyes has said can't afford the fee

[LeeB]

I bet West Ham end up about 15th next season, regardless of the business they do this summer.

[KevinGage]

The other factor to consider is when Tammy came here on loan, he was motivated and fired up to prove himself to his parent club.

He seems a good sort, but coming here on a three to four year contract and suddenly thinking 'this is my level' might change the motivation somewhat. Hard to tell.

He was also playing one league down when he had that successful stint with us. And still looked like Bambi on Ice at times even at that standard.  I wouldn't be against the move, but think we need good cover for Ollie. Rather than a £40 million + striker who will expect to start every game.

[cdbearsfan]

Let's just get the best player we can rather than worrying about "cover". Let the players have to battle for their place rather than being assured of it. It would also be nice to be able to bring someone off the bench that genuinely frightens the opposition, something we virtually never have. (Grealish coming off the bench while he recovers from injury doesn't count).

[Goldie.7]

If there was a deal to be done for Callum Hudson Odoi I'd do that instead.

Of course, our customary fringe Chelsea midfielder signing. It's like we haven't learned anything from Drinkwater and Barkley.

No doubts the usual "We should sign Ruben Loftus-Cheek" suggestions will start to fire up soon.

[LeeB]

If there was a deal to be done for Callum Hudson Odoi I'd do that instead.

Of course, our customary fringe Chelsea midfielder signing. It's like we haven't learned anything from Drinkwater and Barkley.

No doubts the usual "We should sign Ruben Loftus-Cheek" suggestions will start to fire up soon.

The only thing linking the three is their parent club. Why would we not look at the 20 year old Hudson Odei because of the other two loans? They're different players at different ends of their career.

Ruling players out because someone else you bought off them was shite is just stupid. If you use that logic we'd have never have signed Watkins.

[chrisw1]

Well no as the manager said they couldn't afford the fee
So actually he would only be more likely here and if loan then I think maybe West Ham can have a chance but they don't have the money like Villa.

I read we have a £250mil war chest which is delightful.
I don't see West Ham with same financials and Moyes has said can't afford the fee

Moyes is being coy and trying to talk the fee down.  Don't take it literally.

[Lastfootstamper]

That cdbwf, him there, he gets it. Improve your squad by bettering the current player in the shirt.

[Goldie.7]

If there was a deal to be done for Callum Hudson Odoi I'd do that instead.

Of course, our customary fringe Chelsea midfielder signing. It's like we haven't learned anything from Drinkwater and Barkley.

No doubts the usual "We should sign Ruben Loftus-Cheek" suggestions will start to fire up soon.

The only thing linking the three is their parent club. Why would we not look at the 20 year old Hudson Odei because of the other two loans? They're different players at different ends of their career.

Ruling players out because someone else you bought off them was shite is just stupid. If you use that logic we'd have never have signed Watkins.

Watkins signed for us because we could guarantee him a starting place and he knew Smith. He would have went to Spurs or Leeds otherwise. He said it himself the other day.

Callum Hudson-Odoi isn't an upgrade on any of our currently fit wide players. Not to mention he is constantly caught offside. Maybe in a few seasons yes, but he's not what we need right now.

He's so good that he's played 90 minutes twice in the league all season (one was against us). Yeah, no thanks!

[Goldie.7]

I have a sneaking suspicion that we may go in for Philippe Coutinho.

He ticks all the boxes.

 1) He would be a statement signing.
 2) He is one of Jack's favourite players.
 3) Can play either on the left or right or in the middle of the park.
 4) Speaks good English and would settle in quickly with the help of our other Brazilians.

He has been linked with Everton but I think he is exactly the type of a player we should also be looking to target. The only negative I can think of is his age(28) but I reckon he would still be good for a 4/5 year contract.

I said that a few months ago, we could make it happen.

Pedro Goncalves from Sporting would be a much better fit for the team than injury prone £250k-a-week Coutinho.

I even like their striker Paulinho who they just signed in January from Braga. Aerially, he's a beast. He also does that penalty hop / skip Fernandes does which infuriates opposition players.

Portuguese players just move differently. We would definitely benefit having a couple of them in the squad next season.

[curiousorange]

Given Villa managed to sign the only Spaniard who couldn't pass in Carlos Cuellar, I wouldn't be so sure we'd be brilliant raiding Portugal's stockroom.

[Brazilian Villain]

How quickly you forget Fernando Nélson.

[cdbearsfan]

You'd have to completely mental to refuse to sign a player because you didn't rate a completely different player we acquired from the same club.

Djemba-Djemba wasn't very good, assume Paul McGrath must have been shite.

[dave shelley]

How quickly you forget Tony Moon.  Gone and forgotten.