Quote from: Villan82 on August 17, 2024, 02:40:11 PMQuote from: Chip Butty 111 on August 17, 2024, 01:47:47 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on August 10, 2024, 06:13:18 PMQuote from: AV82EC on August 10, 2024, 02:10:46 PMAn extra 8-10k makes piss all difference to match receipts and merchandising. I’ll concede it makes some difference but in the grand scheme of the race to £400m turnover there’s easier ways to do it. I disagree, a big full ground makes us more attractive to sponsors and to the overseas Tv market.After watching the euro's in Germany on TV, and then going to Dortmund for pre season showed how much we have taken our eye off the ball stadium wise over the years. I remember going to Anfield in the early eighties and the capacity was 33,000...now it's 61,000, standing behind the goal at Old Trafford when Withe notched the winner, capacity then 58,000..now 76,000..new stadium on the way....while we have gone from 55,000 + crowds in the seventies to a capacity of 42,000 now. I've always been in the redevelop Villa Park camp, but I fear there may be too many obstacles to overcome with the present site to achieve what many of us want..60,000 seats and a pint at half time. My lad summed it up as we were leaving the stadium in Dortmund..."they need to get cracking with our stadium, we're miles off it"110% this. The North Stand, you could argue, is about 30 years past its sell by date considering the lower tier was left as it was because it was built in the era of standing on terraces. Bar ourselves and Chelsea the big clubs all play in 50,000 plus stadia. Everton will join them next season and Chelsea would if they could. We are the only club who think expanding capacity is a 'bad idea'.What happens if PSR/FFP gets ditched and the rules get changed with more emphasis on clubs with bigger earning capacity on a a match day? The cancelled redevelopment has never sat well with me and has always had the look of a decision that will bite us on the arse at some point. We'd be 50,000 in two year's time if we'd only stuck with what we said we'd do.We spend months here speculating that the cancellation must mean a new stadium is on the way but Heck has ruled that out in his 'lifetime'!! I fear we are stuck at 43,000 for the next decade. I never thought I would ever think this growing up, but Villa Park is too small and continues to be overtaken yearly by other clubs capacity wise, when there only used to be 3 or 4 bigger stadiums. I think its now a below averaged sized stadium in the Premier League with no sign of any change to take place.
Quote from: Chip Butty 111 on August 17, 2024, 01:47:47 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on August 10, 2024, 06:13:18 PMQuote from: AV82EC on August 10, 2024, 02:10:46 PMAn extra 8-10k makes piss all difference to match receipts and merchandising. I’ll concede it makes some difference but in the grand scheme of the race to £400m turnover there’s easier ways to do it. I disagree, a big full ground makes us more attractive to sponsors and to the overseas Tv market.After watching the euro's in Germany on TV, and then going to Dortmund for pre season showed how much we have taken our eye off the ball stadium wise over the years. I remember going to Anfield in the early eighties and the capacity was 33,000...now it's 61,000, standing behind the goal at Old Trafford when Withe notched the winner, capacity then 58,000..now 76,000..new stadium on the way....while we have gone from 55,000 + crowds in the seventies to a capacity of 42,000 now. I've always been in the redevelop Villa Park camp, but I fear there may be too many obstacles to overcome with the present site to achieve what many of us want..60,000 seats and a pint at half time. My lad summed it up as we were leaving the stadium in Dortmund..."they need to get cracking with our stadium, we're miles off it"110% this. The North Stand, you could argue, is about 30 years past its sell by date considering the lower tier was left as it was because it was built in the era of standing on terraces. Bar ourselves and Chelsea the big clubs all play in 50,000 plus stadia. Everton will join them next season and Chelsea would if they could. We are the only club who think expanding capacity is a 'bad idea'.What happens if PSR/FFP gets ditched and the rules get changed with more emphasis on clubs with bigger earning capacity on a a match day? The cancelled redevelopment has never sat well with me and has always had the look of a decision that will bite us on the arse at some point. We'd be 50,000 in two year's time if we'd only stuck with what we said we'd do.We spend months here speculating that the cancellation must mean a new stadium is on the way but Heck has ruled that out in his 'lifetime'!! I fear we are stuck at 43,000 for the next decade.
Quote from: PeterWithe on August 10, 2024, 06:13:18 PMQuote from: AV82EC on August 10, 2024, 02:10:46 PMAn extra 8-10k makes piss all difference to match receipts and merchandising. I’ll concede it makes some difference but in the grand scheme of the race to £400m turnover there’s easier ways to do it. I disagree, a big full ground makes us more attractive to sponsors and to the overseas Tv market.After watching the euro's in Germany on TV, and then going to Dortmund for pre season showed how much we have taken our eye off the ball stadium wise over the years. I remember going to Anfield in the early eighties and the capacity was 33,000...now it's 61,000, standing behind the goal at Old Trafford when Withe notched the winner, capacity then 58,000..now 76,000..new stadium on the way....while we have gone from 55,000 + crowds in the seventies to a capacity of 42,000 now. I've always been in the redevelop Villa Park camp, but I fear there may be too many obstacles to overcome with the present site to achieve what many of us want..60,000 seats and a pint at half time. My lad summed it up as we were leaving the stadium in Dortmund..."they need to get cracking with our stadium, we're miles off it"
Quote from: AV82EC on August 10, 2024, 02:10:46 PMAn extra 8-10k makes piss all difference to match receipts and merchandising. I’ll concede it makes some difference but in the grand scheme of the race to £400m turnover there’s easier ways to do it. I disagree, a big full ground makes us more attractive to sponsors and to the overseas Tv market.
An extra 8-10k makes piss all difference to match receipts and merchandising. I’ll concede it makes some difference but in the grand scheme of the race to £400m turnover there’s easier ways to do it.
The number of grounds that I visited in the eighties, which no longer exist because they had the foresight to go bigger and better is surprising. Filbert StBaseball GroundHighfield RdThe DellRoker Park Maine RdVictoria GroundHighburyWhite Hart LaneUpton ParkThe Den...I could go onAnd the list of grounds that have vastly increased capacity, who traditionally we have competed with, is alarming.And all the while we continue to make excuses not to increase capacity and fall further behind the rest..we need to get our act together and stop being obsessed with executive lounges and reconfiguring gangways.
Good to hear. Was it busy?Seems a logical way to increase revenue. I don’t work in hospitality but could help with staff retention/training and turning over stock to keep it fresh. I like it.
Quote from: Chip Butty 111 on August 17, 2024, 06:08:54 PMThe number of grounds that I visited in the eighties, which no longer exist because they had the foresight to go bigger and better is surprising. Filbert StBaseball GroundHighfield RdThe DellRoker Park Maine RdVictoria GroundHighburyWhite Hart LaneUpton ParkThe Den...I could go onAnd the list of grounds that have vastly increased capacity, who traditionally we have competed with, is alarming.And all the while we continue to make excuses not to increase capacity and fall further behind the rest..we need to get our act together and stop being obsessed with executive lounges and reconfiguring gangways.All moved to a new site though, which is a cardinal sin according to some which has leaked over to the owners so we're now limited to what we can do being working around the fringes of a plot that doesn't work for a 60k stadium with full modern facilities.
Just been down to get a shirt and must say the shop is 100's times better than what went before.The one thing is the activity going on - i attend construction sites in my work and it is unbelievable to think that they will have V P ready for pre KO on Saturday with the amount of trades and materials all over the site.Fair play if they pull it off
Quote from: Hookeysmith on August 22, 2024, 03:46:42 PMJust been down to get a shirt and must say the shop is 100's times better than what went before.The one thing is the activity going on - i attend construction sites in my work and it is unbelievable to think that they will have V P ready for pre KO on Saturday with the amount of trades and materials all over the site.Fair play if they pull it offSame here, we just went down and couldn't believe how much work looks left to do. The new fanzone area seems to be having a load of portakabin type construction going on, but didn't look like it had got very far. Had to park at the Holte End as the North Stand car park was no-go, and walking back up Witton Lane it looks like there is still a wall missing at the end of the Witton Lane stand above the away fans entrance. Presume this is linked to the work on the exec boxes in there, but not sure if/how this affects the away end.On the plus side the shop was looking good and really busy, so the club must be raking it in on shirt sales this year.
I'd settle for having a ticket to get in at this stage!
Quote from: Risso on August 22, 2024, 03:51:48 PMI'd settle for having a ticket to get in at this stage!You want the Moon on a stick.
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