Champions League restructuring

[Stu]

This proposed league is the end point of unregulated capitalism certainly. Without regulation it craves monopoly and protection of profit from risks. The antithesis of competitive sport.

[Sexual Ealing]

This proposed league is the end point of unregulated capitalism certainly. Without regulation it craves monopoly and protection of profit from risks. The antithesis of competitive sport.

It's also, bizarrely, the antithesis of capitalism. I will now drown myself for defending capitalism!

[Monty]

There are times when being a squishy liberal social-democrat type feels like a near-prophetic and quite easy position, like a kind of Cassandra for the bleedin' obvious. Without each other, the market and the state will always tend towards monopoly.

[dave shelley]

Relegation should be the main punishment but we know that won't happen, I'd be very surprised if it did.

My take would be:

From the beginning of next season 15 points deduction.
An incoming transfer embargo for the next four windows (two years to begin from now)
No European competition for three years, over to Euefa for that.

What the politics and legalities for that are I have no idea but that is what I feel should be a very minimum.  They didn't care about us, why should we care about them?

Five of those clubs should get it for suggesting Spurs alone!

[robleflaneur]

Relegation and a £10m fine each.Relegation would have to be to the 4th tier not the Championship as otherwise that would effectively stop the chances of promotion for 2 years  of Championship sides.
Those six clubs signed an agreement which threatened the future of other league clubs.

[LeeB]

Relegation and a £10m fine each.Relegation would have to be to the 4th tier not the Championship as otherwise that would effectively stop the chances of promotion for 2 years  of Championship sides.
Those six clubs signed an agreement which threatened the future of other league clubs.

The six of them fighting to get out of the division in three spots would be hilarious  though.

[Hockley Lion]

Perez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.

Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.

One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level.

[danno]

Vote with the other 14 clubs to redistribute overseas TV income more evenly.

A "punishment" that can just as equally be framed as the premier league helping clubs promoted from the championship to better compete.

It benefits everyone except the Six, will affect them every season and best of all it will piss them off royally.

[algy]

Relegation and a £10m fine each.Relegation would have to be to the 4th tier not the Championship as otherwise that would effectively stop the chances of promotion for 2 years  of Championship sides.
Those six clubs signed an agreement which threatened the future of other league clubs.

The six of them fighting to get out of the division in three spots would be hilarious  though.

Relegate them all to League 2, then dock 90pts off each of them.  They can fight to see which 2 of the "Big 6" get to play non-league football the next season, whilst the other 4 get a season battling it out in League 2.

[Bobby Boy]

Relegation and a £10m fine each.Relegation would have to be to the 4th tier not the Championship as otherwise that would effectively stop the chances of promotion for 2 years  of Championship sides.
Those six clubs signed an agreement which threatened the future of other league clubs.

The six of them fighting to get out of the division in three spots would be hilarious  though.

Relegate them all to League 2, then dock 90pts off each of them.  They can fight to see which 2 of the "Big 6" get to play non-league football the next season, whilst the other 4 get a season battling it out in League 2.

I don't think this goes far enough...

[john e]

Perez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.

Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.

One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level.

There is not the same anger about it in Spain or Italy as there is here

Especially with the fans of the clubs involved

[Monty]

Perez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.

Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.

One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level.

There is not the same anger about it in Spain or Italy as there is here

Especially with the fans of the clubs involved

There wasn't at first in Italy, but after seeing the English fans get mad the fury definitely built among the tifosi of the left-behind. The trouble is Italians are quite used to being fucked over and not being able to do anything about it, so their reaction to something like this was always likely to be pessimism and resignation. It picked up though.

[cdbearsfan]

Cadiz fans turned up to protest when they played Real Madrid. Fans of Real and Barcelona have always been entitled wankers and think it is unfair that they're no longer allowed to keep 90% of the TV money, just as Juventus fans think it was unfair to punish them fot actually bribing referees. So I doubt the clubs themselves are angry but I think their competitors are.

[PaulWinch again]

Italian football is in a state. Just look at the stadiums, they’ve pretty much been left to ruin. It’s not overly surprising those fans after battle weary and beaten down.

[Sexual Ealing]

Perez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.

Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.

One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level.

There is not the same anger about it in Spain or Italy as there is here

Especially with the fans of the clubs involved

Similarly, most Old Firm fans are desperate to leave Scotland. Perhaps they could all fuck off to Kazakhstan forever.