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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1365 on: April 21, 2021, 12:25:36 AM »
Well the good thing is these clubs have lost so much political influence and clout within UEFA. Will take years to repair that damage. UEFA are in it for the money just like the rest of them and for a second there, they saw their money tree being taken away and they didn't like it.

No, they didn't like it, which is why they'll be all over the 15 now they've come back.

They want them inside the tent pissing out, not the other way round.

This is nothing about principles, it is one bunch of ****** v an even bigger bunch of ******.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1366 on: April 21, 2021, 12:28:44 AM »
Well the good thing is these clubs have lost so much political influence and clout within UEFA. Will take years to repair that damage. UEFA are in it for the money just like the rest of them and for a second there, they saw their money tree being taken away and they didn't like it.

No, they didn't like it, which is why they'll be all over the 15 now they've come back.

They want them inside the tent pissing out, not the other way round.

This is nothing about principles, it is one bunch of ****** v an even bigger bunch of ******.

Agreed.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1367 on: April 21, 2021, 12:34:37 AM »
Anyone else been amused by the faux outrage shown by Sky over 'greed' and 'self interest'.Pot kettle black.Wankers.
Anyway they can go back to wanking off their favourite teams in red now it's gone up shit creek.

Yep, some massive boulders been thrown in greenhouses over the past few days.  FIFA (World Club Championship, World Cups in Russia and Qatar), UEFA (creation of the Champions League which has created a massively uneven playing field in countries across Europe) and the Premier League (kept the money at the top of the game while lower league clubs have gone to the wall) trying to take some kind of moral high ground has been laughable. 

Classic example on the radio earlier.  Eddie Hearn was on and went on a rant about how football fans in this country had been let down by this and it was all about greed.  Then went very quiet when asked if the Fury v Joshua fight was going to be held in Saudi Arabia.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 12:36:21 AM by tomd2103 »

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1368 on: April 21, 2021, 12:46:28 AM »
Meh. Personally i'm looking forward to the excitement of the Madrid-Milan Super League

They will set up franchises based on major football cities, and lure players with lucrative contracts. All games will be played in a very few venues which have the most advanced TV facilities in place. Kids watching a game from, say Everton or WBA will think, wtf.

Then, AI will kick in. On the plus side, you will able to generate Willie Anderson beating 5 players and scoring a wonder goal.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1369 on: April 21, 2021, 12:55:18 AM »
Anyone else been amused by the faux outrage shown by Sky over 'greed' and 'self interest'.Pot kettle black.Wankers.
Anyway they can go back to wanking off their favourite teams in red now it's gone up shit creek.

Yep, some massive boulders been thrown in greenhouses over the past few days.  FIFA (World Club Championship...

I don't really have a problem with the concept of a better organised World Club Championship. I appreciate that it is difficult to fit into the calendar and likely to be overly-dominated by European clubs, for the immediate future, at least. However, we have clubs competing to see who is the best in each country and continent, it has always seemed a natural progression to me that you would want to establish who was the best in the world.

It doesn't seem intrinsically less logical to me that Boca Juniors could occasionally play Real Madrid than it does that Argentina sometimes play Spain.

For clarity, I am not, in any way, supporting any further ESL-style league that has teams from multiple continents. I just have no objection to an expansion of the existing Fifa Club World Cup competition so long as teams qualify legitimately by performance in continental cups.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1370 on: April 21, 2021, 12:56:32 AM »
I am willing to bet my right nutsack:

There will be no punishment handed down to the teams "football needs them too much"

The media wankathon over the teams will carry on as if nothing happened.

All of the CEO's that resigned form that ECA board will be allowed back in. After all they created the champions league closed shop as it is now

How many nutsacks do you have?!

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1371 on: April 21, 2021, 12:59:45 AM »
I'd like to see transfer bans and point deductions handed out.

Not because I'm bloodthirsty, but because this is hot on the heels of their previous power play "project big picture" which imo was almost as disgusting as this super league idea, and they faced no consequences for that.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1372 on: April 21, 2021, 03:15:43 AM »
I’ve given this a bit of thought. I’m all for punishing the clubs financially, like a big fine, much more than that hurts the very fans who did so much to bring it to an embarrassing end. They shouldn’t be punished. But for the owners, chairman, wankers who plotted behind the scenes, they need to be hounded out. Listened to Souness earlier that he thinks John Henry won’t survive. Let’s see. But that’s the way to punish the clubs, is to hit the owners personally somehow. That’s what they understand most.

UEFA knows their product is better with those clubs a part of it. So have this gone ahead I have no doubt they’d have fucked those clubs over, now they are back it will be interesting to see what they do also. They won’t ever trust those owners ever again.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1373 on: April 21, 2021, 03:24:39 AM »
Trouble is any action UEFA take with regards to fines will get bogged down in the courts. They certainly wont bar them from European competition for the reasons we already know. So I'm hoping the EPL step up and punish the clubs and unfortunately this will mean the fans getting caught up in this as their clubs will be penalised.  At the end of the day, English supporters stopped this so the EPL needs to set the example with the punishment.

I'd be looking at a points deduction starting at the beginning of next season, say 6 points for each of the 6 weasels.  That's not an insurmountable number for these clubs to make up but does put them at a significant disadvantage.

 

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1374 on: April 21, 2021, 04:03:31 AM »
Have they technically broken any rules - don't think so
Do UEFA need them back in for their slightly more acceptable version of wanton greed to work - yes
Will the owners of ManU/madrid/etc try this again after getting royally buttfucked in public - probably not
Will UEFA allow them to try again - not a chance

So overall not a bad result
But they have ‘technically’ broken the rules, haven’t they.
A premier league rule is that clubs cannot plan to play in another competition without the permission of the league. I am sure I heard that referred to on Monday.

A massive fine won’t bother them. Points deductions are a great option, but punishes the fans who didn’t want this in the first place.
The only way to hurt them is to their egos. Make them see that they are not the power lords in English football.
For me, best punishment it to take their power away.
Withdraw their right to vote on the PL for a period of 2 years or more.
They all think they they are Billy big bollocks - well, bring them down to earth and make them eat humble pie for a time.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 04:12:00 AM by andyh »

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1375 on: April 21, 2021, 06:17:23 AM »
I can not see any viable way that the perpetrators can be punished.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1376 on: April 21, 2021, 06:18:35 AM »
A fitting punishment might be to force them to play in a midweek super league - just the six of them, playing each other every Wednesday, with no prize money and no TV cameras. They have to play a full strength side in every game.

As a kindness, relieve them of European football for the next 5 seasons to help with the fixture congestion.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1377 on: April 21, 2021, 06:33:59 AM »
Banning them from European competition for a year or two will hurt them far more than a fine.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1378 on: April 21, 2021, 06:51:46 AM »
Id ban them, but Uefa won’t because of viewing figures.

Offline sid1964

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1379 on: April 21, 2021, 06:54:54 AM »
i think they will push for a greater share of the broadcast rights from SKY

 


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