Champions League restructuring

[andyh]

FIFA president being pretty clear.

https://youtu.be/iULk6gtWvoE

[Nev]

I’m not sure it’s really a simple case of free markets/ Tory hypocrisy (and I say this as a Labour member and voter). Any philosophy, left or right, has elements of private business and public provision, and elements of government regulation.

I think it’s recognition that due to the passion and loyalty of real (legacy!?) football fans, people can’t just switch “suppliers” like they would in a normal market if they didn’t like what was happening. It’s just calling for a special recognition for the unique characteristics of football. I don’t like the Tories at all, but I hope they intervene here, would respect them more for doing so, and wouldn’t see it as hypocrisy.

Well I have to admire your fair mindedness, I'm probably too cynical to readily accept someone like the PM doing anything other than that which benefits himself or his party, and the latter is a stretch as far as he is concerned.

We also need to be mindful that past Conservative involvement in football lead to David Mellor engaging in "red hot soccer chat" and no-one wants a return to those dark days.

[ROBBO]

Looks like Boris is going to war on this one, he, of course, will realise that virtually the whole nation is against this move. I really don't get it, if Villas not playing the most i watch is edited editions of other matches, I am hard pressed to bother watching England games.

[Hookeysmith]

I am not sure why the players of the cunty 6 are being let off with them offering  "Nothing to do with us Guv". Surely their huge salaries and agents fees are the reason these clubs are so much in the financial shit and need to create new cash streams

That is in no way condoning the breakaway, far from it,  i just think its a bit rich (no pun intended) that the players think they are all just pawns in this circus.

Is the plan not to leave the PL but just create a new format midweek for themselves and boycott the Chumps league?

They need the ultimatum of one or the other - no way both even with a huge compromise. Genuine football fans will not forget this so they best go

[Drummond]

Politicians will fight an election on this sort of thing.

I'd be more than happy if they were booted out permanently. Our league structure would be fine.

[andyh]

Looks like Boris is going to war on this one, he, of course, will realise that virtually the whole nation is against this move. I really don't get it, if Villas not playing the most i watch is edited editions of other matches, I am hard pressed to bother watching England games.

He must be fucking ecstatic this has happened. Another issue that he can show his ‘passion’ for where a majority opinion is already in place. He has nothing to lose by sticking his fucking snout in this.

Sorry...don’t want to bring politics into something that is already shit.

[ChicagoLion]

FIFA president being pretty clear.

https://youtu.be/iULk6gtWvoE

Thats all he needs to say and then stick with it.

The lawyers are loving this.

[Monty]

Looks like Boris is going to war on this one, he, of course, will realise that virtually the whole nation is against this move. I really don't get it, if Villas not playing the most i watch is edited editions of other matches, I am hard pressed to bother watching England games.

He must be fucking ecstatic this has happened. Another issue that he can show his ‘passion’ for where a majority opinion is already in place. He has nothing to lose by sticking his fucking snout in this.

Sorry...don’t want to bring politics into something that is already shit.

It absolutely is a place to bring politics into it, and for all that politicians of all parties have helped facilitate the state the game is in today (and the Tories more than most), if Johnson's shameless pandering turns out to be useful here then that would be a fine advantage.

[Scott Nielsen]

From Guardian:
“If Boris Johnson is so minded,” says Geof Walker, “he only needs to bring forward a short bill banning any football in England other than matches organised by the FA. Such laws are already in place in France and Germany.

Anyone know if it is true those laws exist in France and Germany? Maybe that explains why Bayern München and PSG did not join.

[OCD]

Hopefully the greedy 6 get banned from Europe next season and 10th place will be enough to qualify for the Champions League!

[pauliewalnuts]

I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

[AV82EC]

I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

I think they just built a brand new stadium didn't they? I think the delle Alpi is still going to rack and ruin.

[Monty]

I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

The same people I suspect who vote for Salvini in Calabria.

[Gerrin]

I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

The same people I suspect who vote for Salvini in Calabria.

How are they less successful? In terms of European Cups and Champions League, yes. But they've won Serie A 36 times compared to 18 a piece for Inter and Milan.

[clash city rocker]

The people behind this scheme are the people that call it soccer. Perhaps they have never really grasped why clubs have F.C after their name.