Champions League restructuring

[Jon Crofts]

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I have a feeling this morning that this isn't going to happen.

I'd like to think it'll happen but there's no way some of the spineless suits will go along with it. Oh to be a fly on the wall.

[Exeter 77]

If the ESL happens and FIFA, UEFA and national associations kick those clubs out how would that affect the transfer system? Theoretically, as they sit outside the rules of the governing bodies they wouldn't have to pay transfer fees to clubs who are still inside the system.

[Chris Smith]

Apparently UEFA negotiating a £5.2b deal with Centricus Asset Management, a London based hedge fund
Currently UEFA doles out £3b each year
So I think I see where this is heading
UEFA does the deal based on the new “improved” CL format that was agreed yesterday. The “dirty dozen” were happy with the format but not the allocation of dosh.

So, UEFA agrees that the extra £2.2b should go mainly to the 12 to pretty much compensate for the money they would have got from JP Morgan (which was only as upfront loan anyway)
The 12 “reluctantly” agree to step back into the fold, claiming that their action was only intended for the good of the game at grass roots level
We all move on....nothing to see here

Clive this is my worry as we will end up with worst of both worlds. I wish UEFA had not approved their own proposal yesterday and set it aside for a while. I would rather these weasels are chucked out and we restart with a reset. Keeping them in at the high price they will demand is just slow death.

Yep.  If they are allowed to press ahead with the ESL and stay in the Premier League then it's game over.  The extra financial advantage they will have on top of the already existing one will make the league even more uncompetitive and then there will be the whole situation around European qualification, with the non-ESL teams still presumably able to qualify for the UEFA competitions.

Why will give a toss about the Premier League? There’s no incentive for them to win it or be in the top 4 as European qualification no longer matters so they’ll want to keep their best players fit for the big money games.

[ChicagoLion]

Everton response is majestic.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866

Classy as you'd expect from the better half of Merseyside.

Well done Everton.

[Axl Rose]

Everton response is majestic.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866

Classy as you'd expect from the better half of Merseyside.

Well done Everton.

Agreed. Poles apart from the red germs.

[TonyD]

That interview with Florentino Perez was characteristically illuminating. 'Football is about the big clubs playing each other', 'how dare Ceferin insult the president of a great club like Juventus', all this shit. Just a reminder of the absolute, illimitable, Francoist entitlement behind all this.

Bear in mind Perez also said "The young people want this?"
What people?
How young?
Where are they?

Bollocks.

Football is about being competitive and risk of jeopardy.  What a lying prick.   

[Brend'Watkins]

Everton response is majestic.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866

Classy as you'd expect from the better half of Merseyside.

Well done Everton.

Agreed. Poles apart from the red germs.

Yes, it's a nice sentiment but at the same time Everton and the rest of us must realise that these owners are not one bit concerned about their legacy. The owners of these clubs are true capitalists and are taking their capitalism to it's extreme or will in the future when Manchester United become the Dubai Red Devils for 10 years until the next location offers them more to become the Kuala Lumper Red Devils ...and on an on. 

[Monty]

hah, another one making the link between this and globalisation. Maybe people are finally waking up when its something they care about getting trashed by it,.

Any fool can make that link though. And it's hardly a surprise that Macron was the first to condemn it, given the French view of the EU as a great opportunity for protectionism of the European way of life against American imperialism.

[lovejoy]

Utah Jazz. What Jazz does Utah have?

[andyh]

That interview with Florentino Perez was characteristically illuminating. 'Football is about the big clubs playing each other', 'how dare Ceferin insult the president of a great club like Juventus', all this shit. Just a reminder of the absolute, illimitable, Francoist entitlement behind all this.

Bear in mind Perez also said "The young people want this?"
What people?
How young?
Where are they?

Bollocks.

Football is about being competitive and risk of jeopardy.  What a lying prick.   

I kind of see what he is getting at.

I think there is a huge swathe of people (saddos) in the world who have never kicked a ball, never been part of a football crowd, never experienced the feelings associated with attending a match with that ball of nerves in the pit of your stomach, making you feel sick.
Never experienced the elation of winning a big game or the utter misery of a defeat.

BUT, they play FIFA or other football related computer games.
They know all the players from the ‘big clubs’ because they are in ‘their’ virtual teams.
They know all the stats of the top players because they study them like a high level game of Top Trumps.

Those are the people being targeted by the new league.
Most of the people who will pay to watch those super league games will never attend a game. They will never have attended one.

This new league wants ‘virtual’ fans watching a ‘ virtual PRODUCT’ but paying real money for the experience.

[cdbearsfan]

Utah Jazz. What Jazz does Utah have?

None. They started off in New Orleans and have relocated.

[Monty]

Reports in Italy that Roma and Napoli might be invited, and I'm pretty certain they'd accept - Roma have American owners, and De Laurentiis at Napoli is a corrupt fuck who's wanted to be in something like this since Berlusconi mooted it three decades ago.

[sickbeggar]

hah, another one making the link between this and globalisation. Maybe people are finally waking up when its something they care about getting trashed by it,.

Any fool can make that link though. And it's hardly a surprise that Macron was the first to condemn it, given the French view of the EU as a great opportunity for protectionism of the European way of life against American imperialism.

Well yeah because he's a massive hypocrite. He wants globalisation on his terms ie The EU terms but seems to have missed the point that by definition its global where the richest non-europeans get to make the rules which isn't him.

[andyh]

hah, another one making the link between this and globalisation. Maybe people are finally waking up when its something they care about getting trashed by it,.

Any fool can make that link though. And it's hardly a surprise that Macron was the first to condemn it, given the French view of the EU as a great opportunity for protectionism of the European way of life against American imperialism.

Well yeah because he's a massive hypocrite. He wants globalisation on his terms ie The EU terms but seems to have missed the point that by definition its global where the richest non-europeans get to make the rules which isn't him.

Please don’t contaminate this thread as well, with your political bullshit. It’s bad enough elsewhere.

[sickbeggar]

Point taken.