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Online john2710

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #690 on: April 19, 2021, 05:48:29 PM »
You only have to look at how some of these elite clubs reacted to the pandemic, when their first action was to put support staff onto furlough.

Real Madrid paying the likes of Gareth Bale £600k / week is madness. Having previously sold off their training ground to the local council to clear debts, they're now in financial trouble again.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #691 on: April 19, 2021, 05:49:00 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

I certainly hope not.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #692 on: April 19, 2021, 05:53:08 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

I certainly hope not.

Me too.  It's a shit idea and will prove a big mistake, if as expected they aren't allowed to have their cake and eat it.  They will know that the only way they can sell it is to either keep a spot in the feeder leagues (the 'premier' domestic leagues) and a vague promise that "you too, little club, can one day play in our SUPERLEAGUE when we allow it".   

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #693 on: April 19, 2021, 05:53:14 PM »
Promising and surprisingly strong noises from the government. Obviously I wouldn't trust them to chew gum and spit it out, but if they do actually do something then they will have at least put a real cherry on the shit cake that is them. Like Nixon signing that pollution bill over there.

In terms of government action, can they just say they will deny any work visas for new signings? They want to have a bunch of global megastars playing every week, they'll soon get bored if they can only sign players from Morecambe and Motherwell.

That was mentioned earlier in The Guardian not just for 'overseas' players signing for the Scabby 6 but also for teams coming to play them here with non-UK players. Another of the benefits of Brexit?

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #694 on: April 19, 2021, 05:53:25 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

Think we've had our quota with 6 of them tbh.

The main good of being involved is the share of the global spoils than not.
It's a status thing isn't it so it's tricky not to want to be part of that

I don't think Nassef Sawiris wants to miss out on this global opportunity does he?

My proposal
I rather keep Prem as it is. Have a play off for top 4. And relegation keeps things exciting

Have a European champions cup as league winners only.
And a European cup tournament for cup winners

Global audience
All star exhibition matches at Christmas in Dubai and Australia
And in summer in USA Asia

And Cup finals played over seas.

As a compromise
« Last Edit: April 19, 2021, 05:55:10 PM by Footy-Vill »

Offline steamer

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #695 on: April 19, 2021, 05:58:04 PM »
Or is it these greedy bastards not liking the revised champions league proposal, push out this Agenda and will compromise for a better deal.
Although Spurs would not qualify for champs league anyway

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #696 on: April 19, 2021, 05:58:49 PM »
Just on the Celtic Rangers thing

If the Premier League loses six of its biggest clubs why not restructure it into a British league

Don’t just take Celtic and Rangers and leave the little Scottish clubs to rot
But have a Scottish-North-South section in the lower leagues with promotion relegation etc

I've always thought it was kind of unfair that Hearts and Hibs and Aberdeen have always been viewed kind of as absolute minnows - had McGregor got his way there's every chance one of these could have been a force in a British league system.

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #697 on: April 19, 2021, 06:00:41 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

I certainly hope not.

Me too.  It's a shit idea and will prove a big mistake, if as expected they aren't allowed to have their cake and eat it.  They will know that the only way they can sell it is to either keep a spot in the feeder leagues (the 'premier' domestic leagues) and a vague promise that "you too, little club, can one day play in our SUPERLEAGUE when we allow it".

I hope not too. But Eden's and Sawiris would love this stuff of a dream league for status.

Now what I hope is that if these clubs are not allowed, for whatever reason , to form this league then they should be repucusdion and sanctions on the wantaway 6 .
That has to happen or suspension for UEFA European competition at least and points deduction in premier league as a warning.
It's grossly unfair to the Premier league and the European competitions and insulting the 6 should be reprimanded

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #698 on: April 19, 2021, 06:01:18 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

Think we've had our quota with 6 of them tbh.

The main good of being involved is the share of the global spoils than not.
It's a status thing isn't it so it's tricky not to want to be part of that

I don't think Nassef Sawiris wants to miss out on this global opportunity does he?

My proposal
I rather keep Prem as it is. Have a play off for top 4. And relegation keeps things exciting

Have a European champions cup as league winners only.
And a European cup tournament for cup winners

Global audience
All star exhibition matches at Christmas in Dubai and Australia
And in summer in USA Asia

And Cup finals played over seas.

As a compromise

 I just can't see them having a 20 ESL with 7 or 8 English teams out of 20. You think they'd be looking at 3 or 4 Italian, Spanish, French, german teams with maybe an Ajax, Benfica etc... And if it did take off with untold wealth you'd have the same problem you have with coming up to the PL. The teams let in would mostly be the whipping boys and unable to pay the wages for top players or unlikely paying top wages in case they went straight out again.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2021, 06:03:25 PM by sickbeggar »

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #699 on: April 19, 2021, 06:01:41 PM »
Just on the Celtic Rangers thing

If the Premier League loses six of its biggest clubs why not restructure it into a British league

Don’t just take Celtic and Rangers and leave the little Scottish clubs to rot
But have a Scottish-North-South section in the lower leagues with promotion relegation etc

I've always thought it was kind of unfair that Hearts and Hibs and Aberdeen have always been viewed kind of as absolute minnows - had McGregor got his way there's every chance one of these could have been a force in a British league system.

Agreed, but you know perfectly well that any attempt to integrate Scottish football into the "English" pyramid would start and end with the Glasgow two. Exactly the kind of closed shop mentality that is, rightly, being condemned.

I reckon they'll end up joining the ESL scabs, anyway.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #700 on: April 19, 2021, 06:08:42 PM »
Thought it not being on SKY/BT was why Neville, Ferdinand etc. were so anti. Or maybe I'm too cynical and they were genuine. Or a bit of both.

Genuine, IMO. Neville, in particular, often comes across as a decent sort.
Yeah, Neville's a decent chap in my book. Quite like the guy.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #701 on: April 19, 2021, 06:09:59 PM »
Putting aside all the bigotry and sectarian unpleasantness, i'm not sure the locals would be that happy seeing Birmingham reduced to cinders twice a season. I think they're still clearing up the mess Rangers made of Manchester.

Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #702 on: April 19, 2021, 06:15:53 PM »
The new super league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

Isn't there a strong indicator Villa will be involved in this gluttony somewhere along the lines

I certainly hope not.

Purslow has come out against it. He called it grotesque on Radio 4 this morning.

Offline Meanwood Villa

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #703 on: April 19, 2021, 06:17:58 PM »
I've been off work today and had a lot of time to dwell on this. I actually think I feel worse than after relegation, worse than after it was plain Tony was skint. At least on those occasions we had the chance to rise again. If this goes through I don't know what becomes of us.

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #704 on: April 19, 2021, 06:18:32 PM »
Real Madrid, Manchester City and Chelsea will likely be banned from this season’s Champions League semi-finals, UEFA executive committee member Jesper Moller told broadcaster DR on Monday.
“The clubs must go, and I expect that to happen on Friday. Then we have to find out how to finish (this season’s) Champions League tournament,” said Moller, who is the head of the Danish FA. “There is an extraordinary executive committee meeting on Friday.”

 


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