Champions League restructuring

[selly park trinity]

Why aren't Wolves being invited in is the real scandal.....

[Monty]

That Super League announcement in full:

[Drummond]

Something else, how cowardly to do it with no fans in the grounds to vent their feelings.

You can imagine the atmosphere at Villa Park on Wednesday had we been there.

[sickbeggar]

If you wanted to stop it, you only have to look to Sky. I'm guessing they're involved here, but they still need subscriptions to survive like anyone else and the ESL would be counting on them to bid at least to raise the bidding. Take them out and they won't be making the money they hoped.

[Ger Regan]

The recent attempt at changing the pl voting rules looks even more sinister now.

[Baldy]

There is nothing worse than watching a dead rubber. The Super League will be full of them. Let the big 6 go and face the consequences of their greed. Asia is welcome to them.

There are enough remaining big clubs in the UK whose support would double/treble if they thought they had a chance of winning something. The pyramid is littered with big clubs who have been largely abandoned due to the big 6 dominance. These clubs have the potential to be massive again.

The big 6 players have a dilemma. Most of them are mercenaries who only moved to the UK for more money so they will gladly join their club in a Super League. The UK born players will have to show their true colours and I reckon lots of them will hand in transfer requests. Likewise, their fans have a dilemma, I can see some of them abandoning their club and choosing to follow a so called lesser club.

With sponsors aplenty, TV companies scrambling for coverage, increased fan base and a more level playing field the Premier League and EFL could flourish.

Next to the Royal Family, Football is the biggest institution in the UK and it will survive and flourish regardless as to whether the big 6 stay or not.

 

[Drummond]

I tell you something else, we've a lot of good parenting to do.

Too many people let their kids support these clubs; it really has to stop.

[luke:lamf]

If they do stay, there should be organised boycotts of all matches involving the "Big 6" - no fans in the ground, nobody watch on TV. Treat it like an international weekend when Villa play Man City at VP and go to watch a non-league team instead. I assume 13 individual tickets for the other home games would work out cheaper than a season ticket for 19 home games anyway.

[tomd2103]

Well we're a bit more robust than a lot of leagues I think, so if that happened I wouldn't be that worried. Certainly more than 15 clubs capable of 40000 plus attendances in the pyramid. I think people would still come through the turnstiles to watch it.  I have no wish to watch Liverpool play Man U 4 times per season with no relegation/promotion although I can imagine that would appeal to overseas viewers but it sounds no better than the CL to me. They seem to be talking about some sort of promotion relegation anyway because well if you don't you get stagnation.. Anyway if you let them stay, you have them over a barrel. The PL wouldn't sign an agreement where they could fuck off in 5 years because there's nothing in it for them.

I'm struggling to think of 15 clubs if those 6 bugger off. Us, Newcastle, West Ham, Everton, Sunderland. Leeds and Leicester at a push. Crowds that big would be a rarity anyway with that lot gone for good.

The clubs mentioned have all maintained healthy crowds during recent spells outside the top flight. 

Being in the Championship didn't dampen my desire to want to go to games and if anything, it's the games against the so called 'top six' which I don't really have as much interest in.

[sickbeggar]

Globalisation init. Where other countries can steal your culture even, if they have the money.

[Monty]

Globalisation init. Where other countries can steal your culture even, if they have the money.

Nearly, but it's not as nationalist as that. It's the divorcing of the rich from the rest, the real 'nowheres' against the rest of us 'somewheres'.

It's also European football becoming a victim of its own success. We've all grown used to the idea that the best players all come here, that even South American countries are reduced to feeder leagues, never mind Africa or Asia. But with that global domination comes this deracination, as the global revenues for the richest few begin to dwarf those generated locally, cutting off these clubs from the people who built them and transforming them into franchises.

[sickbeggar]

Globalisation init. Where other countries can steal your culture even, if they have the money.

Nearly, but it's not as nationalist as that. It's the divorcing of the rich from the rest, the real 'nowheres' against the rest of us 'somewheres'.

It's also European football becoming a victim of its own success. We've all grown used to the idea that the best players all come here, that even South American countries are reduced to feeder leagues, never mind Africa or Asia. But with that global domination comes this deracination, as the global revenues for the richest few begin to dwarf those generated locally, cutting off these clubs from the people who built them and transforming them into franchises.

It's about making money over all other considerations - which is basically what Globalisation is. You've got a load of foreign owned clubs, bankrolled by an American bank to make money in territories where the punters have no cultural, historical, or geographical ties and will probably never step inside the clubs or indeed the countries involved. Welcome to the new order...……..

[Sexual Ealing]

If you wanted to stop it, you only have to look to Sky. I'm guessing they're involved here, but they still need subscriptions to survive like anyone else and the ESL would be counting on them to bid at least to raise the bidding. Take them out and they won't be making the money they hoped.

I had no idea that you liked football, sb! Wink.

[Mister E]

There is nothing worse than watching a dead rubber. The Super League will be full of them. Let the big 6 go and face the consequences of their greed. Asia is welcome to them.
There are enough remaining big clubs in the UK whose support would double/treble if they thought they had a chance of winning something. The pyramid is littered with big clubs who have been largely abandoned due to the big 6 dominance. These clubs have the potential to be massive again.
The big 6 players have a dilemma. Most of them are mercenaries who only moved to the UK for more money so they will gladly join their club in a Super League. The UK born players will have to show their true colours and I reckon lots of them will hand in transfer requests. Likewise, their fans have a dilemma, I can see some of them abandoning their club and choosing to follow a so called lesser club.

With sponsors aplenty, TV companies scrambling for coverage, increased fan base and a more level playing field the Premier League and EFL could flourish.

Next to the Royal Family, Football is the biggest institution in the UK and it will survive and flourish regardless as to whether the big 6 stay or not.

Yes, I was thinking that this might prove a massive shot in the arm for the game in many ways: supporting your local team never resonated so loudly.

[Villan82]

Globalisation init. Where other countries can steal your culture even, if they have the money.

Mate, wait until you hear about colonialism!