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Offline andyh

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #480 on: April 19, 2021, 10:10:27 AM »
Zero tolerance for me.  Any teams joining this competition are expelled from the Premier League and European competitions.  To boot, any player at one of those clubs is no longer eligible to represent their country in international competitions.......





Me too.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #481 on: April 19, 2021, 10:11:36 AM »
Its obvious this is all about money and protecting 'status' in this closed shop model. What the clubs themselves have not considered is the competition side. Most of these sides are used to winning as a mentality and expectation. How long would the fan base and club be happy to watch their teams finish mid table? Will become stale very very quick.

Hoping the leagues come down on these lot and HARD. Id start today by relegating them, saying no relegation from prem this year and then promoting 6 up.
If they want to play domestic football as well then fine, but they can do it in the EFL and enjoy fitting those 8 million games in alongside this precious 'Super' League

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #482 on: April 19, 2021, 10:13:28 AM »

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.

Well was that not the gameplan anyway? They've certainly been edging towards that scenario as it is. All this is grabbing a bigger slice of the cake that we wouldn't have been asked to taste anyway. I'd be very surprised if SKY didn't know all about this anyway because you don't piss off your major revenue supplier and just announce it to them. Bottom line is there will be less money  and less exposure for us if we chuck them out the PL. This way, at least the foreign fans will still pay to watch ManU in the PL.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #483 on: April 19, 2021, 10:13:38 AM »
Zero tolerance for me.  Any teams joining this competition are expelled from the Premier League and European competitions.  To boot, any player at one of those clubs is no longer eligible to represent their country in international competitions.

Can see a Super League becoming stale quite quickly, so would add the caveat that any team wishing to rejoin should do so at National League level.

Well said.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #484 on: April 19, 2021, 10:15:03 AM »

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.
Agree. Also I think the opportunity in the US has not gone un noticed. Whilst NFL games sell out every week there has been a year on year decline in TV audiences. Football (particularly PL and ECL) is gaining popularity as is participation at every level.
Once they have successfully created a Franchise then they will have the ability to take it to an even wider audience without the Geographical Boundaries of European and Domestic  Football.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #485 on: April 19, 2021, 10:16:10 AM »

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.

Well was that not the gameplan anyway? They've certainly been edging towards that scenario as it is. All this is grabbing a bigger slice of the cake that we wouldn't have been asked to taste anyway. I'd be very surprised if SKY didn't know all about this anyway because you don't piss off your major revenue supplier and just announce it to them. Bottom line is there will be less money  and less exposure for us if we chuck them out the PL. This way, at least the foreign fans will still pay to watch ManU in the PL.
More Trolling.

Offline andyh

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #486 on: April 19, 2021, 10:16:34 AM »
So, will they rename and rebrand themselves.

The Liverpool liver birds.
The Man City rush
The Tottenham cocks.

Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #487 on: April 19, 2021, 10:17:24 AM »
Interestingly the Times are reporting that the breakaway already have solicitors ready to fight any punishments...

Also, the 3 "spare" spots are obviously PSG, Bayern and Dortmund, let's hope they don't crack.

Offline Martin Carruthers

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #488 on: April 19, 2021, 10:20:03 AM »
You'd imagine PSG would all over it, but would hope the ownership structure of the German clubs would stop them.

Offline Monty

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #489 on: April 19, 2021, 10:20:15 AM »
More hope on Dortmund than the other two, as they are a bunch of weirdos, but we'll see.

Offline Risso

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #490 on: April 19, 2021, 10:20:33 AM »

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.

Well was that not the gameplan anyway? They've certainly been edging towards that scenario as it is. All this is grabbing a bigger slice of the cake that we wouldn't have been asked to taste anyway. I'd be very surprised if SKY didn't know all about this anyway because you don't piss off your major revenue supplier and just announce it to them. Bottom line is there will be less money  and less exposure for us if we chuck them out the PL. This way, at least the foreign fans will still pay to watch ManU in the PL.

I'm not sure if you've missed what I'm getting at. They'll only be in the Premier League for the time it takes them to get the fully fledged Super League up and running, then they'll leave and just play in that. We'll then be left with the Premier League with us and Everton as the biggest teams left and the likes of Sheffield United and Norwich making up the 6 who have left, and with the best will in the world, nobody's going to pay good money for that.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #491 on: April 19, 2021, 10:21:06 AM »

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.

Well was that not the gameplan anyway? They've certainly been edging towards that scenario as it is. All this is grabbing a bigger slice of the cake that we wouldn't have been asked to taste anyway. I'd be very surprised if SKY didn't know all about this anyway because you don't piss off your major revenue supplier and just announce it to them. Bottom line is there will be less money  and less exposure for us if we chuck them out the PL. This way, at least the foreign fans will still pay to watch ManU in the PL.
More Trolling.

eh? What bit? Do you really think Aston Villa and its revenue streams have ever featured in UEFA's long terms plans for the CL?. They've always been about looking after the established clubs and reacted horribly to the likes of Chelsea and Man City crashing the party. If Lerner had been successful in getting us in the CL on a regular basis we would have got the same treatment

Offline garyellis

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #492 on: April 19, 2021, 10:25:09 AM »
Zero tolerance for me.  Any teams joining this competition are expelled from the Premier League and European competitions.  To boot, any player at one of those clubs is no longer eligible to represent their country in international competitions.......





Me too.

With this approach all the way. A line in the sand need to be drawn and now is the time

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #493 on: April 19, 2021, 10:25:47 AM »
Interestingly the Times are reporting that the breakaway already have solicitors ready to fight any punishments...



Of course they have and the Lawyers are looking forward to a Fee fest.

Offline olaftab

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #494 on: April 19, 2021, 10:26:29 AM »
And classless twats sack Jose.

 


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