Champions League restructuring

[Bobby Boy]

Well said Christian Purslow. Grotesque is what it is.

Now the scab six need to be left in no doubt what pariahs they are.

[andyh]

Does their arrogance mean they think they can continue to play domestic league football but that they will be permanently withdrawing from current European football and domestic cup competitions?

Is that their plan?

[sickbeggar]

The way I see it.

1. These clubs would still have to follow PL rules if they stay in, so play their strongest side, same squad size, no help with fixtures
2. More injuries to their players
3. you can only select your 11 and subs so you can have 30 players worth 50m each with your new-found wealth but they all won't be playing
4. All of the above will probably be detrimental to their performance in the PL.
5. Presumably UEFA will ban them so we get to go in the CL anyway.
6. Will severely weaken FIFA and UEFA which can only be good as they're a bunch of corrupt chancers.
5. If it all goes tits up then we'll benefit anyway.

If the Pl allows them to get away with this (stay in the PL), it will be the tail wagging the dog.
And the elite clubs will be making up the rules.

yeah i'm talking strictly on whether it could turn out to be good for Aston Villa. The whole moral angle is a different question. Its also interesting to note that some of those clubs have had major run ins with UEFA and also some of the clubs not in it were considered UEFA's pets like the German/French clubs.

[ChicagoLion]

Does their arrogance mean they think they can continue to play domestic league football but that they will be permanently withdrawing from current European football and domestic cup competitions?

Is that their plan?

Juve have generously volunteered to play in the CL as well for a while. Bless em

[cdbearsfan]

Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd and Tottenham fans waking up this morning...

[sickbeggar]

Tottenham/Arsenal fans must be gutted. They gone from being  also-rans in the PL to the whipping boys in the ESL

[ChicagoLion]

The way I see it.

1. These clubs would still have to follow PL rules if they stay in, so play their strongest side, same squad size, no help with fixtures
2. More injuries to their players
3. you can only select your 11 and subs so you can have 30 players worth 50m each with your new-found wealth but they all won't be playing
4. All of the above will probably be detrimental to their performance in the PL.
5. Presumably UEFA will ban them so we get to go in the CL anyway.
6. Will severely weaken FIFA and UEFA which can only be good as they're a bunch of corrupt chancers.
5. If it all goes tits up then we'll benefit anyway.

If the Pl allows them to get away with this (stay in the PL), it will be the tail wagging the dog.
And the elite clubs will be making up the rules.

yeah i'm talking strictly on whether it could turn out to be good for Aston Villa. The whole moral angle is a different question. Its also interesting to note that some of those clubs have had major run ins with UEFA and also some of the clubs not in it were considered UEFA's pets like the German/French clubs.

It would be good for us if the PL kicked them out, anything that allows them to run their own competition whilst still being in the PL would be awful for us. It would make them even more dominant.

[Walmley_Villa]

Wonder what the players think about this, if this goes ahead and players from these teams are banned from playing for their country.

Might see lots of players wanting to leave these teams if that happens.

Most of the money will be going into their pockets - it's a win win for top players financially.

Is it though, because they can still earn millions and play for their country (if it comes to that) by not playing in the so called twats league. 

Look at the sums the top sports people earn in the US - they will follow the money (with their agents).

Ironically it looks like Arsenal and Spurs will never now have won the Champions League plus City's will be tarnished IF they win this year.

The irony for City is that they are jumping into bed with the clubs that tried to bring them down with FFP.....

[cdbearsfan]

Yep.

[sickbeggar]

The way I see it.

1. These clubs would still have to follow PL rules if they stay in, so play their strongest side, same squad size, no help with fixtures
2. More injuries to their players
3. you can only select your 11 and subs so you can have 30 players worth 50m each with your new-found wealth but they all won't be playing
4. All of the above will probably be detrimental to their performance in the PL.
5. Presumably UEFA will ban them so we get to go in the CL anyway.
6. Will severely weaken FIFA and UEFA which can only be good as they're a bunch of corrupt chancers.
5. If it all goes tits up then we'll benefit anyway.

If the Pl allows them to get away with this (stay in the PL), it will be the tail wagging the dog.
And the elite clubs will be making up the rules.

yeah i'm talking strictly on whether it could turn out to be good for Aston Villa. The whole moral angle is a different question. Its also interesting to note that some of those clubs have had major run ins with UEFA and also some of the clubs not in it were considered UEFA's pets like the German/French clubs.

It would be good for us if the PL kicked them out, anything that allows them to run their own competition whilst still being in the PL would be awful for us. It would make them even more dominant.

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

[paul_e]

Personally I just wish they'd be honest about the whole thing.

Trying to wrap this up as good for the entire game and that it'll allow money to flow through the entire pyramid better is obvious bullshit and everyone knows it.

If they'd come out and said that covid has shown that they need better control of their finances to ensure they can meet their commitments I'd still think they were t**ts but at least they'd be telling the truth. Trying to paint a veneer of respectability over the whole thing means that not only are they t**ts but that they think the majority of fans aren't intelligent enough to notice.

Fuck it I'd give the players 12months notice (i.e. up to the earliest possible start date for it) and then anyone still at any of these clubs is banned from international football. Every club would be fined, docked points and kicked out of European competition this season (on the back of arranging this behind the backs of the current organisation) and fully remove them from all FA/UEFA/FIFA affiliated competitions as soon as an actual start date to the super league is announced.

However anyone advocating for Celtic and Rangers to join the league in their place should be flogged in the streets, fuck the pair of them.

[Risso]

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

Because it's the thin end of the wedge. The end goal is clearly an NFL style 24 or 32 team Super League, with franchises in the major European [footballing] cities, and then in time in places like Qatar. It'll be a completey closed shop, and then we'll just be left with completely devalued national leagues.

[tomd2103]

 Zero tolerance for me.  Any teams joining this competition are expelled from the Premier League and European competitions.  To boot, any player at one of those clubs is no longer eligible to represent their country in international competitions.

Can see a Super League becoming stale quite quickly, so would add the caveat that any team wishing to rejoin should do so at National League level.

[Bobby Boy]

The way I see it.

1. These clubs would still have to follow PL rules if they stay in, so play their strongest side, same squad size, no help with fixtures
2. More injuries to their players
3. you can only select your 11 and subs so you can have 30 players worth 50m each with your new-found wealth but they all won't be playing
4. All of the above will probably be detrimental to their performance in the PL.
5. Presumably UEFA will ban them so we get to go in the CL anyway.
6. Will severely weaken FIFA and UEFA which can only be good as they're a bunch of corrupt chancers.
5. If it all goes tits up then we'll benefit anyway.

If the Pl allows them to get away with this (stay in the PL), it will be the tail wagging the dog.
And the elite clubs will be making up the rules.

yeah i'm talking strictly on whether it could turn out to be good for Aston Villa. The whole moral angle is a different question. Its also interesting to note that some of those clubs have had major run ins with UEFA and also some of the clubs not in it were considered UEFA's pets like the German/French clubs.

It would be good for us if the PL kicked them out, anything that allows them to run their own competition whilst still being in the PL would be awful for us. It would make them even more dominant.

I wouldn't kick them out. Serious. It's going to effect the money we get off SKY and weaken us. Let them stay in, suffer having to play all the extra games, lose the CL money with maybe us gaining it. To break cover like this, they must have the financial backing of major players so its going to happen. Why not benefit from it?

How can you let them stay after their treachery? They'd also have an additional £3 billion in their pockets so any lingering sense of competitiveness at the top of the league would be dead.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Zero tolerance for me.  Any teams joining this competition are expelled from the Premier League and European competitions.  To boot, any player at one of those clubs is no longer eligible to represent their country in international competitions.

Can see a Super League becoming stale quite quickly, so would add the caveat that any team wishing to rejoin should do so at National League level.

All exactly what I would say too.

Can imagine fans of those teams becoming bored pretty quickly if they did go have domestic football to watch and getting fed up of losing a lot of matches in this Super League.

Might mean clubs joining the Football League from those cities, to pick up the fans. There's already FC United of Manc and AFC Liverpool for example.