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Offline olaftab

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #330 on: April 18, 2021, 11:46:35 PM »
Well, we're the biggest team in English football again. It's been a while.
Good point.   When did we lose the spot.   I reckon it was 1950. 
My Rothman A-Z of World Football 1973 edition still describes us the the most successful English  football club. So it's in the 80's that Liverpool usurped us and then....

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #331 on: April 18, 2021, 11:47:25 PM »
£3.5bn.

There we have it. The raison d'etre. Clubs like Milan and Inter and Arsenal, who just can't compete anymore with the upstarts on a regular basis. Clubs like Barcelona and Madrid who are in so much debt, as they're total financial basket cases, clubs like Liverpool who found their stay at the top finite, clubs like Man United who haven't won a title in what will be at least 9 years now... it'd all a ruse and a facade for just a means of doping financially.

The gap can get bigger and rich can save themselves.

Well, not today. Not now, not ever. Kick them out, all of them. Ban them and any player contracted by them from any UEFA or FIFA regulated activity and competition. Ban any UEFA or FIFA regulated club from selling a player's registration to them. Ban any UEFA or FIFA regulated club from playing a game with them.

And when a club like Arsenal gets tired of losing 24 matches a season, in a half empty stadium where it costs £100 a ticket and they beg to come back. We tell them sure, of course. No problem. You start in League 2.

The response from football's governing bodies, national leagues, associations and the governments of the countries where these clubs (and I use the word loosely and with the utmost contempt) reside, should swift, merciless and brutal.

Generally agree, but they can start way lower than League Two. Let them come back in the regional leagues like teams like the new Wimbledon had to. Even then, they're only allowed back if they pay reparations for at least, say, fifty years.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #332 on: April 18, 2021, 11:51:42 PM »
Interesting Orwellian language in the statement too. A lot of talk of 'stability', as if stability is in any way an appealing thing in sport.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #333 on: April 18, 2021, 11:52:35 PM »
The FA have a lot to answer for, their mishandling of the premiership allowing just a few clubs to dominate the league for many years now, has led to this. When playing in Europe was far more important than winning the FA cup relegating one of the historically great competitions to a why bother for top clubs.
Then there is the fair play rules that underpinned the power of the priveledged few clubs that had already spent hundreds of millions to corner the market in top players. Remember when Man City and Chelsea were mediocre clubs with relatively poor support, now they are spoken of as an untouchable top five.
I really have little interest watching the England team unless there is a Villa player involved and i would suggest that
it would soon become obvious that this super league would fall on its face within a couple of seasons. Let them go I say, the premier league would become far more exciting without them.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #334 on: April 19, 2021, 12:00:52 AM »
Well, we're the biggest team in English football again. It's been a while.
Good point.   When did we lose the spot.   I reckon it was 1950. 
My Rothman A-Z of World Football 1973 edition still describes us the the most successful English  football club. So it's in the 80's that Liverpool usurped us and then....
Actullay 1950 was when started to slip from being biggest in the world. 

Offline TonyD

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #335 on: April 19, 2021, 12:02:00 AM »
Hesgoal could put a spanner in their cunning plans.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #336 on: April 19, 2021, 12:02:31 AM »
If this goes ahead, even if we aren't involved, I think I am finally done with football.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #337 on: April 19, 2021, 12:04:10 AM »
I’m not done with football. Villa will still play in the PL and the domestic trophies. We will have a better chance of winning them too and playing in Europe.

Online Pete3206

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #338 on: April 19, 2021, 12:05:12 AM »
I suppose they'll want to leave the domestic cups as well.

 



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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #339 on: April 19, 2021, 12:07:11 AM »
Yes, the website very clearly mentions that they want to play in domestic leagues. It says nothing of cups.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #340 on: April 19, 2021, 12:08:50 AM »
So can any of original 15 ever get relegated ?


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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #341 on: April 19, 2021, 12:10:34 AM »
I suppose they'll want to leave the domestic cups as well.


They won’t be able to play in them I suspect.

Honestly I will look at this like I see the Bundesliga, or La Liga or Ligue 1. I know I can watch them on tv. I know they have good games and some great players. I just don’t have the time or desire to watch those games. If the authorities have balls to do what they need to do without these clubs it’s just 15-20 less clubs to concern ourselves with. We will finish higher up the table. Players will be eligible for the national team which will now exclude the players in the Super League. It will be more fun.

Offline Risso

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #342 on: April 19, 2021, 12:10:45 AM »
I’m not done with football. Villa will still play in the PL and the domestic trophies. We will have a better chance of winning them too and playing in Europe.

It wouldn't be the same though would it? People didn't like the Premier League when it came into being but that was essentially just a rebranding exercise. This would mean 6 of the biggest clubs in England no longer being there, thus massively diminishing the quality and value of the Premier League.  Then all that would happen is the next biggest clubs (us, Everton, Leicester, Newcastle, Leeds, West Ham etc) would dominate, with the likes of Cardiff, Boro, Norwich and Watford making up the numbers. Thanks but no thanks. The money in the domestic game would be hit severely, and then we'd all have to hope for a small chance of being invited to their big boys' club.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #343 on: April 19, 2021, 12:10:47 AM »
Talk before was of a twenty year exemption from relegation.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #344 on: April 19, 2021, 12:11:15 AM »
If they want to crawl back at any time, they start at the bottom of the football pyramid.

Tier 9. No exceptions. 

Fuck the lot of them.

 


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