Champions League restructuring

[Monty]

The American sports leagues don't have promotion or relegation and they're spectacularly successful. Mind you, they also have enormous numbers of teams, localised conferences to preserve local rivalries and draft systems which mean everyone has a chance.

[Marton]

If UEFA and PL impose sanctions immediately...then Leicester OR West Ham win the league?

They play in CL next season and Villa , Everton and Leeds finish season with scrap over the other places?

[cdbearsfan]

My concern is that, I think, the Premier League votes on the basis of a fourteen club majority for any significant vote. So they would only need to persuade one club to go along with them to avoid being voted out of the league. I can imagine someone like Leicester or West Ham being offered a place for a season or three and they'd have the numbers to prevent any expulsion move.

I read that it’s not up to the PL clubs. They won’t get to vote.
It’s the PL board that can say yes or no

Ah, okay. That sounds good then, judging by what they have said so far, anyway.

[Marton]

The American sports leagues don't have promotion or relegation and they're spectacularly successful. Mind you, they also have enormous numbers of teams, localised conferences to preserve local rivalries and draft systems which mean everyone has a chance.

America sport events are only successful as a syndicated televised distraction while the population indulge in organized mass-eating events.

[OCD]

My concern is that, I think, the Premier League votes on the basis of a fourteen club majority for any significant vote. So they would only need to persuade one club to go along with them to avoid being voted out of the league. I can imagine someone like Leicester or West Ham being offered a place for a season or three and they'd have the numbers to prevent any expulsion move.

A vote may not even be needed as it's a clear rule violation which each club signed up to.

[PaulWinch again]

I repeat what I said previously. Call their bluff and tell them to fuck off.

[Sexual Ealing]

I repeat what I said previously. Call their bluff and tell them to fuck off.

This this this.

[TopDeck113]

If you have a ring fenced competition with no qualification it will quickly become boring and it will fail.

I would find it boring as fuck but reckon the glory-hunters round the world would love it.

That's it.  This isn't about the fans who went when football was shit, support their club through thin and thinner just for a season or two in the sun and who still, by and large, have a family and/or geographical connection with the club. 

I was just thinking about two children I taught last year.  One supports Liverpool, the other Man City.  Through playing FIFA, they know every player in every Champions League club.  When it's a non-uniform day, they'll be wearing the latest kit - last time one had a full Barca kit with Messi on the back, the other Juve with Ronaldo.  That's who this is for. Or rather who are there to be bled of every last penny by a self-selected elite.  And in every class, in every school, across most of the globe, there will be children just like that.

[ChicagoLion]

My concern is that, I think, the Premier League votes on the basis of a fourteen club majority for any significant vote. So they would only need to persuade one club to go along with them to avoid being voted out of the league. I can imagine someone like Leicester or West Ham being offered a place for a season or three and they'd have the numbers to prevent any expulsion move.

I read that it’s not up to the PL clubs. They won’t get to vote.
It’s the PL board that can say yes or no

Ah, okay. That sounds good then, judging by what they have said so far, anyway.

any special resolution requires a 2/3rds majority so it is up to the clubs.

[cdbearsfan]

If UEFA and PL impose sanctions immediately...then Leicester OR West Ham win the league?

They play in CL next season and Villa , Everton and Leeds finish season with scrap over the other places?

If they're thrown out of of domestic competitions then Leicester win FA Cup, Brentford win League Cup? Or maybe they'd just not have cup winners this year, but that would be very unfair on Leicester.

[OCD]

Rio Ferdinand coming out strongly against it on BT Sports now too.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

As far as I'm concerned the sky 6 can f-ck off and good riddance. I don't watch them now unless they're playing the Villa and I certainly wouldn't be watching them in any other artificial, self preservation, financially induced situation. I haven't watched the "champions league" since the inception of its new format. 
I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Gary Neville, but today he is spot on. That said his manure plus the other pundits' favourites have been working towards a breakaway for some time, so to suddenly say something today is a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
The sky 6 make me laugh when the likes of spurs and arsenal (in their current state) are included.
Any breakaway of any kind is only intended for the armchair tw-t supporter or those who get their kicks out of watching wall to wall football on some european "strip" tourist destination, which has got to be one of the saddest ways of watching live football.
I don't think this should just be about the PL or Eufa or whoever sanctioning these clubs. I think all football supporters should boycott any breakaway league or a champions league restructure designed to protect further the so-called elite.
Football has changed so much since my youth, for the worst, not helped by the likes of sky, dodgy refs and var, but my love for the sport of the 70's, 80's and the early 90's does not extend to the sh-t being discussed today. UTV always, every other club and their compliant supporters including the visual media can f-ck off!

[lovejoy]

As Olaftab said, this is a smokescreen for the Swiss revamp. I say call their bluff, agree and close the door on the way out.

[cdbearsfan]

As Aftab said, this is a smokescreen for the Swiss revamp.

It isn't, though. Discussions started months ago and JP Morgan and other backers have no interest in revamping the existing system.

[Risso]

I was just thinking about two children I taught last year.  One supports Liverpool, the other Man City.  Through playing FIFA, they know every player in every Champions League club.  When it's a non-uniform day, they'll be wearing the latest kit - last time one had a full Barca kit with Messi on the back, the other Juve with Ronaldo.  That's who this is for. Or rather who are there to be bled of every last penny by a self-selected elite.  And in every class, in every school, across most of the globe, there will be children just like that.

At least Liverpool and Man City are within touching distance of Burnley.  This move is for people who watch football in Malaysia, Hong Kong and other far flung places around the globe. They'll play games at stupid hours for the foreign market, and almost certainly have a number of games played in cities as far away as Shanghai and Los Angeles. It's a proposal to take the most popular teams in European football and create a version of the NFL.