Champions League restructuring

[andyh]

The fact they have broken PL rules by even discussing a new competition means they should be given punitive punishment, tomorrow.

[Nunkin1965]

So do they want to play in this new league as well as staying in the PL?

Also they obviously wouldn’t be able to play in the CL? 

Anyone?

They think they are going to play in this competition as well as the domestic league. The domestic league has said they can't. Next step would be court, I imagine.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Some of these clubs are in a financial mess so good luck with that.

Regardless the game I love is disappearing into the distance.

[Lsvilla]

I’m minded to think that this is engineered to make sure that clubs get exactly what they want out of the current Champions League restructuring - but on the off chance there’s any real momentum to it I don’t think ‘corporate’ action eg: banning / fining / deducting points from clubs is the answer. It will just get mired in legals for ever. I would propose that the FA instruct Southgate that he can’t pick players from those teams. See how much they are prepared to put up with that.

[aev]

So do they want to play in this new league as well as staying in the PL?

Also they obviously wouldn’t be able to play in the CL? 

Anyone?

They think they are going to play in this competition as well as the domestic league. The domestic league has said they can't. Next step would be court, I imagine.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Some of these clubs are in a financial mess so good luck with that.

Regardless the game I love is disappearing into the distance.

Yep, Jonathan Liew talks about the finances here.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/18/only-someone-who-truly-hates-football-can-be-behind-a-european-super-league

[cdbearsfan]

I don't see this as a tactic to force negotiations. It is a serious drive to break away with huge money (JP Morgan) behind it. They will use everything in their power to compete in this ring-fenced competition while retaining membership of domestic leagues. If they're succesful, I think that would be me done with football.

[CT]

The fact they have broken PL rules by even discussing a new competition means they should be given punitive punishment, tomorrow.

I would love this to be the case, I just don’t think the PL/FA have the balls to deduct 12 points off them all.

[TonyD]

If you have a ring fenced competition with no qualification it will quickly become boring and it will fail.

[Clive W]

I honestly think this is a contrived situation being staged by both UEFA and  so called elite clubs to make sure the horrific CL restructuring goes ahead. Later on today or tomorrow morning  Clubs will withdraw their proposal and UEFA will do the same and shamelessly both groups will have restructured CL tomorrow.

I think you are correct

The European governing body released a joint statement together with the English Football Association, Premier League, Spanish Football Federation (RFEF), La Liga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) as well as Serie A, on Sunday.

Talks apparently were going ok until there was a huge fallout on Friday night

The idea that the above organisations, with all their boards and legal teams required to be involved, (and all presumably via Zoom), could agree such a statement in a matter of hours seems fanciful

[cdbearsfan]

If you have a ring fenced competition with no qualification it will quickly become boring and it will fail.

I would find it boring as fuck but reckon the glory-hunters round the world would love it.

[Toronto Villa]

The reason the PL ultimately worked even though at the beginning it was positioned much like this “super” league is that still worked within the current league structure. It just broke away from the Football League and became somewhat of a stand-alone format taking a much larger cut of the pot. I don’t know if this is a similar tactic but it is entirely driven by money. And I for one sincerely hope it is separate from the existing league system. We won’t miss any of them at all as clubs. I do feel for their fans though because I imagine the vast majority will be completely against it.

[Dante Lavelli]

If I was Kane and Spurs’ actions denied me the chance to play in the Euros then I’d sue them.  I also hope the English, Spanish and Italian leagues unite and relegate the teams involved.

[ChicagoLion]

I honestly think this is a contrived situation being staged by both UEFA and  so called elite clubs to make sure the horrific CL restructuring goes ahead. Later on today or tomorrow morning  Clubs will withdraw their proposal and UEFA will do the same and shamelessly both groups will have restructured CL tomorrow.

I think you are correct

The European governing body released a joint statement together with the English Football Association, Premier League, Spanish Football Federation (RFEF), La Liga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) as well as Serie A, on Sunday.

Talks apparently were going ok until there was a huge fallout on Friday night

The idea that the above organisations, with all their boards and legal teams required to be involved, (and all presumably via Zoom), could agree such a statement in a matter of hours seems fanciful

you are both over thinking it.

[cdbearsfan]

My concern is that, I think, the Premier League votes on the basis of a fourteen club majority for any significant vote. So they would only need to persuade one club to go along with them to avoid being voted out of the league. I can imagine someone like Leicester or West Ham being offered a place for a season or three and they'd have the numbers to prevent any expulsion move.

[Dante Lavelli]

If you have a ring fenced competition with no qualification it will quickly become boring and it will fail.

I would find it boring as fuck but reckon the glory-hunters round the world would love it.

I’d be inclined to let them have what they’ve asked for.  A separate league with X teams will not support their wage bill.  They’d be grovelling to rejoin in no time. 

[Clive W]

My concern is that, I think, the Premier League votes on the basis of a fourteen club majority for any significant vote. So they would only need to persuade one club to go along with them to avoid being voted out of the league. I can imagine someone like Leicester or West Ham being offered a place for a season or three and they'd have the numbers to prevent any expulsion move.

I read that it’s not up to the PL clubs. They won’t get to vote.
It’s the PL board that can say yes or no