David Moyes: The one that got away?

[danno]

I don't think he's a dinosaur. But I do think a comparison with MON is fair.

I'm not saying he's better or worse, but there's not that much between them. When it comes to working with limited resources MON achieved similar levels of success at Leicester than Moyes did at Everton.

And both were crap at Sunderland!

Compare what MON had to spend at Villa Park and Moyes at Goodison yet MON was always was second best. Never rated either and was delighted when Moyes turned us down it the Championship. As for MON, even the Celtic fans were tired of his football and glad he left when he did (though not under the personal circumstances).

He did a better job at Everton than MON did here. My point was that I don't think that there is that much between the two of them. So I think originally saying that the two of them are "broadly comparable" is neither risible nor unfair.

[avfc456]

A good few years ago now I knew an Everton season ticket holder when Moyes was in charge and one of his criticisms was his record against the teams in the top 6.  I like Moyes and glad he has turned it around for himself, comes across as a decent bloke no frills and thought it was harsh when those prats at West Ham didn't keep him on after he did well to keep them up

[brian green]

I have only ever met three Villa managers in what, seventy five years.  Four if you include Harrison but I don't.  I met David Moyes on the beach in Nice when he had brought his Preston team over for a winter break.  Good bloke, I was impressed by him.  He was clearly a rising talent in the managerial ranks.

[Drummond]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

TTOD? I don't care if it's in jest or not but can we not ever use that term or abbreviation on here? It's repulsive.

[Legion]

What's wrong with The Theatre of Dickheads?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

TTOD? I don't care if it's in jest or not but can we not ever use that term or abbreviation on here? It's repulsive.

Anybody calling them 'United' is a far bigger crime and one that really boils my piss.

[ChicagoLion]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

TTOD? I don't care if it's in jest or not but can we not ever use that term or abbreviation on here? It's repulsive.

It winds Manure fans up more than anything.

[brontebilly]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

Results at Everton were very good though and his stint at West Ham has turned them around (twice). Keeping West Ham in the division is the sum total of their boards ambition and he is comfortably achieving that on a limited budget.

Once the fans get back in, he will come under a bit of pressure alright "We're West Ham and we play on the floor".

Looking forward to this game.

Yes he kept them there or there abouts but no Cigar, he did not push on and pretended he did not spend money which was rubbish. The football was dull.

The football was dull at times but it was still football that got results with likes of Fellaini and Cahill benefitting from direct play. But he still had some talented footballers in those teams, likes of Pienaar, Baines, Coleman, Lescott, Arteta, Jagielka. Could mix it physically and play some decent stuff. Likes of Stones and Stones were sold on for huge money too.

He surely was working off a lower budget than MON at the same time and finishing higher? They did make the top 4 one year but couldnt get through the qualifiers I think. He also left the club in a good spot unlike MON did with us.

[Sexual Ealing]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

Results at Everton were very good though and his stint at West Ham has turned them around (twice). Keeping West Ham in the division is the sum total of their boards ambition and he is comfortably achieving that on a limited budget.

Once the fans get back in, he will come under a bit of pressure alright "We're West Ham and we play on the floor".

Looking forward to this game.

Yes he kept them there or there abouts but no Cigar, he did not push on and pretended he did not spend money which was rubbish. The football was dull.

The football was dull at times but it was still football that got results with likes of Fellaini and Cahill benefitting from direct play. But he still had some talented footballers in those teams, likes of Pienaar, Baines, Coleman, Lescott, Arteta, Jagielka. Could mix it physically and play some decent stuff. Likes of Stones and Stones were sold on for huge money too.

He surely was working off a lower budget than MON at the same time and finishing higher? They did make the top 4 one year but couldnt get through the qualifiers I think. He also left the club in a good spot unlike MON did with us.

They only got to bank that money once though.

[LeeB]

A very limited Manager, he drove Evertonians nuts with his constant safety first negativity. He tried the same at TTOD and see how that worked out.
This West Ham team is doing what Everton did and will come up short.

Results at Everton were very good though and his stint at West Ham has turned them around (twice). Keeping West Ham in the division is the sum total of their boards ambition and he is comfortably achieving that on a limited budget.

Once the fans get back in, he will come under a bit of pressure alright "We're West Ham and we play on the floor".

Looking forward to this game.

Yes he kept them there or there abouts but no Cigar, he did not push on and pretended he did not spend money which was rubbish. The football was dull.

The football was dull at times but it was still football that got results with likes of Fellaini and Cahill benefitting from direct play. But he still had some talented footballers in those teams, likes of Pienaar, Baines, Coleman, Lescott, Arteta, Jagielka. Could mix it physically and play some decent stuff. Likes of Stones and Stones were sold on for huge money too.

He surely was working off a lower budget than MON at the same time and finishing higher? They did make the top 4 one year but couldnt get through the qualifiers I think. He also left the club in a good spot unlike MON did with us.

Pretty much as it was. He was my first choice when the twat flounced off, but that was thinking he'd get more bang for our bucks, and not knowing the tap was about to be pretty much turned off.
There would have been a case for him to take it had he been offered the kind of money O'Neill had to spend.

[DrGonzo]

 I cooked and served Moyes dinner one night n Preston ('twas a very quiet tuesday nght) and he had come back to watch them play shortly after he had gone to manage Everton.  He was a thoroughly nice and unassuming chap.  I'd not swap hm for are Dean but I wish him no ill...except for a 5-1 smashing tonight obviously!

[kippaxvilla2]

Exactly like MON but not as much of a c***.

Not so sure.  He threatened to slap a female reporter.  Also there’s a story that when Everton bought Seamus Coleman from an Irish League club as part of the deal Everton agreed to play a friendly against them to raise them some money.  Full crowd expectant of seeing premier league stars and he sent the under 23’s.  Didn’t go down well at all.

[Richard]

Certainly out witted Dean tonight.

[nordenvillain]

Certainly out witted Dean tonight.

This with bells on

[rob_bridge]

He would have been a better option than any between Gregory sacking and Dean Smith being appointed. In hindsight.

Primarily because of the utter dross and lack of succession planning.