Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread

[Clampy]

Another defeat where I didn't think we actually played that badly. Better finishing and we would have won it. I know people don't like using tiredness as an excuse (and it was nice to have a 3pm game) but we would have benefited from playing Monday. Still, it's how we bounce back again but we're doing ok.

[Villa Lew]

Re pen didn't think it was a clear and obvious error, should not gave been overturned, but I hate diving and that was a shocker from Trez, needs to cut that out of his game, hopefully the management will tell him so.

[Legion]

It looked a penalty to me.

I would agree had Trezeguet not thrown himself in the air like he'd been shot.  If it was against us, I would say it was soft as shit, although once given, it shouldn't have been overturned.

Yes, it was rather theatrical. Needs to cut that sort of shit out.

[Ian.]

Without the dive it might not have gone to VAR, it certainly didn’t help matters.

[Nev]

I note that diving now appears to be a problem in the game, well if it isn't a favoured club or player.

Tez dived, Jack dives all the time. Others are clever, or entitled to go down under the challenge.

[LukeJames]

Tbf I agree with that, it was a pen all day but he went down  in such a stupid dramatic manner that it probably caused doubts.

[MalcolmP]

Jack dives all the time.

No he doesn't

[Legion]

I note that diving now appears to be a problem in the game, well if it isn't a favoured club or player.

Tez dived, Jack dives all the time. Others are clever, or entitled to go down under the challenge.

No he does not.

[Ian.]

Jack dives all the time.

No he doesn't

I said that without even typing.

I actually don’t think he dives as much as some say, he gets kicked to shit to be fair to him.

[Ian.]

What’s going on with the quotes? Something strange happening. For the record I would never say Jack dives all the time.

[paul_e]

Jack, like almost every professional player in Europe, goes down on contact, that happens because if you don't go down you don't get decisions. My favourite example of why players have to go down (and every single coach/manager in the country will encourage it) is Helenius against Tottenham, he stayed up and got a shot away (when his shorts were round his knees) so we didn't get one of the most obvious penalties in the history of the sport. If refs can't use their common sense to give free kicks without players falling to the floor then players are going to fall to the floor.

[Nev]

I think I've been misunderstood here.

I don't believe that Jack dives all the time, my point was the way the media apply different rules to different players.

Trez was criticised on MOTD for diving a few minutes ago, I've seen Salah react in precisely the same manner but without the same criticism.

That was my point.

[LukeJames]

Trez dives, Salah's clever. That's the Liverpool effect.

[The Edge]

Having watched motd I've changed my opinion slightly.  I still think it's a pen but the theatrics by Trez has given the ref room for doubt once he was told to have a look.Having said that there's no way that was a clear and obvious error. As such VAR should not have got involved. Our defence lost their shape at times and they punished us. Welbeck's goal was particularly bad. He is not known for his speed so for him to pick up the ball 10 yards into our half and run unchallenged for an 8 yard tap in is pretty alarming. All in all a draw would of probably been a fair result but it was their day. There was some sluggishness from the international break which is hopefully out of our system now. Onward to West Ham. My moneys on a bounce back victory for the Villa boys.

[The Edge]

Jack, like almost every professional player in Europe, goes down on contact, that happens because if you don't go down you don't get decisions. My favourite example of why players have to go down (and every single coach/manager in the country will encourage it) is Helenius against Tottenham, he stayed up and got a shot away (when his shorts were round his knees) so we didn't get one of the most obvious penalties in the history of the sport. If refs can't use their common sense to give free kicks without players falling to the floor then players are going to fall to the floor.

That's a very good point.