The type of player being discussed is exactly the type of player than O'Neill should have been buying and introducing to the team to supplement Barry, Carew et al - rather than Heskey and endless new defenders.They were good players, you just couldn't expect to be able to throw half a dozen of them in a new team at once with Lescott, Gabby and a moron for a manager and assume it would all just click.
In other news, looks like Snodgrass is set to retire. Shame.
Quote from: Risso on January 06, 2021, 02:13:15 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on January 06, 2021, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2021, 02:06:13 PMAyew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye have all gone to have very good post Villa careers. I would absolutely conclude it was us and the fucking gong show we were as a club and not any of them.I still think Adama is shit - one trick pony, and not a very good trick, either.Me too. He's been absolutely piss poor every time I've seen the Dogheads this season. Stands around, sprints once every five minutes or so, then stands around some more. Maybe tries a stepover every now and again.Occasionally runs really fast in a straight line, invariably out of play. Looks increasingly like Genny from the later series of Gomorrah.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on January 06, 2021, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2021, 02:06:13 PMAyew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye have all gone to have very good post Villa careers. I would absolutely conclude it was us and the fucking gong show we were as a club and not any of them.I still think Adama is shit - one trick pony, and not a very good trick, either.Me too. He's been absolutely piss poor every time I've seen the Dogheads this season. Stands around, sprints once every five minutes or so, then stands around some more. Maybe tries a stepover every now and again.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2021, 02:06:13 PMAyew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye have all gone to have very good post Villa careers. I would absolutely conclude it was us and the fucking gong show we were as a club and not any of them.I still think Adama is shit - one trick pony, and not a very good trick, either.
Ayew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye have all gone to have very good post Villa careers. I would absolutely conclude it was us and the fucking gong show we were as a club and not any of them.
Quote from: sid1964 on January 06, 2021, 06:39:52 AMAmavi - I seem to remember that 90% on here said he was shit when he played for us? (now some want him back, if he will goes it will be to Palace to be with his mate)Also Jordan Veretout another one most on here could not wait to leave us!Veretout seems to be flying this season for Roma, 8 goals in 16 appearances. No idea why they would be looking to leave him go but Italian clubs tend to swap players around quite regularly. He was certainly talented, had a very good game up at Newcastle one night when I was there. Amavi, Gueye, Traore, even Ayew....maybe we let Paddy Reilly leave a bit quickly!
Amavi - I seem to remember that 90% on here said he was shit when he played for us? (now some want him back, if he will goes it will be to Palace to be with his mate)Also Jordan Veretout another one most on here could not wait to leave us!
I actually it is an excellent deal for them. They’re still going down but he has precisely the right attitude and ability to give them some chance or hope.
The problem with that team was the leadership vacuum right at the top of the club, the effects of which manifested themselves as really bad appointments to run the club.That stuff trickles down. As a club we had no sense of vision beyond empty slogans, no thinking any. more long term than the next match, an ambition (17th) which was the lowest setting of the bar it is possible to have as a PL club and morons in charge of achieving that.The problem of the 'young and hungry' era was that it was based entirely on wishful fantasy, and a misplaced belief that if you wanted something to work out, it magically somehow would.This was then compounded by the fact that the imbalance between experienced proven quality and children was so bad, we relied on them all delivering, which was nuts.Same thing with the young foreign players mentioned. The level of expectation that they'd save us whilst being managed by utter clownshoes was insane.Thank God those days are over.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on January 06, 2021, 02:18:23 PMQuote from: Risso on January 06, 2021, 02:13:15 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on January 06, 2021, 02:10:39 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2021, 02:06:13 PMAyew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye have all gone to have very good post Villa careers. I would absolutely conclude it was us and the fucking gong show we were as a club and not any of them.I still think Adama is shit - one trick pony, and not a very good trick, either.Me too. He's been absolutely piss poor every time I've seen the Dogheads this season. Stands around, sprints once every five minutes or so, then stands around some more. Maybe tries a stepover every now and again.Occasionally runs really fast in a straight line, invariably out of play. Looks increasingly like Genny from the later series of Gomorrah.I think he’s regressed this season and he also looks a lot less effective without Raul in the middle. You can make the case of he list I presented he’s been the one who has progressed the least but last season he was being heralded and being considered for a national team call up.
The way the French players in particular were treated at that time seemed to me like petty racism from the thick British ladz. With Gabby and Micah Leading the way with the bigoted bantz in that pathetic Santa video. They were skilled young footballers and from what I could tell they came into a dressing room of thickos that had no leadership. Pretty shameful really.