Ross Barkley

[N'ZMAV]

I think Tielemans has a higher ceiling than Luiz. I was extremely disappointed with Doug for most of the season after Christmas, his form seemed to vary between average and terrible.

I don't think there are any doubts about this. In terms of pedigree, Tielemans is on another level to Luiz.

I tend to think so but it's very close and completely subjective, so stop going on like it's the most obvious of things you tedious twat.

Thanks for the feedback you odious bellend .

calm down children

[VillaTim]

I think Tielemans has a higher ceiling than Luiz. I was extremely disappointed with Doug for most of the season after Christmas, his form seemed to vary between average and terrible.

I don't think there are any doubts about this. In terms of pedigree, Tielemans is on another level to Luiz.

I tend to think so but it's very close and completely subjective, so stop going on like it's the most obvious of things you tedious twat.

Thanks for the feedback you odious bellend .

I wouldn't talk to LeeB like that if I were you. He has caravans...

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[paul_e]

Luiz leaves with our thanks but never reached legend status like Petrov for instance. Another player who was in a different higher pedigree to Luiz.

You've been ridiculous ever since you arrived on the site but this might be the worst thing you've ever posted. If this is your honest opinion and not just another bad attempt at trolling it explains a hell of a lot about why you post the amount of nonsense you do.

Petrov was a good player who did well for us and is a club legend because of a number of things but he's nowhere near the same standard that Luiz has been for us under Emery.

[Brazilian Villain]

I wouldn't talk to LeeB like that if I were you. He has caravans...

H&V's own Leo DiCaprio reckons LeeB looks like Brad Pitt. What a pair of lucky bastards!

[VillaTim]

Luiz leaves with our thanks but never reached legend status like Petrov for instance. Another player who was in a different higher pedigree to Luiz.

You've been ridiculous ever since you arrived on the site but this might be the worst thing you've ever posted. If this is your honest opinion and not just another bad attempt at trolling it explains a hell of a lot about why you post the amount of nonsense you do.

Petrov was a good player who did well for us and is a club legend because of a number of things but he's nowhere near the same standard that Luiz has been for us under Emery.

In your opinion which isn't relevant to me. I watched Petrov for seasons play superbly not just a 12 month renaissance under a new manager. Luiz is a good player but there is a reason why Emery has sacrificed him. I understand Emery's decision and back it.

[Dave]

I think Tielemans has a higher ceiling than Luiz. I was extremely disappointed with Doug for most of the season after Christmas, his form seemed to vary between average and terrible.

I don't think there are any doubts about this. In terms of pedigree, Tielemans is on another level to Luiz.

I tend to think so but it's very close and completely subjective, so stop going on like it's the most obvious of things you tedious twat.

Thanks for the feedback you odious bellend .

Can both of you stop that please.

[Paul.S]

Luiz has been great for this club. Emery has worked his magic with him and has moulded him into the player he is today.
We’ll definitely miss him but players come and go and I wish him all the best and thank him for some great memories.

[VillaTim]

Back to Ross Barkley then.....

[paul_e]

Luiz leaves with our thanks but never reached legend status like Petrov for instance. Another player who was in a different higher pedigree to Luiz.

You've been ridiculous ever since you arrived on the site but this might be the worst thing you've ever posted. If this is your honest opinion and not just another bad attempt at trolling it explains a hell of a lot about why you post the amount of nonsense you do.

Petrov was a good player who did well for us and is a club legend because of a number of things but he's nowhere near the same standard that Luiz has been for us under Emery.

In your opinion which isn't relevant to me. I watched Petrov for seasons play superbly not just a 12 month renaissance under a new manager. Luiz is a good player but there is a reason why Emery has sacrificed him. I understand Emery's decision and back it.

As I said, this sums up why I disagree with almost everything you post, you're clearly looking for something completely different in players.

[VillaTim]

Luiz leaves with our thanks but never reached legend status like Petrov for instance. Another player who was in a different higher pedigree to Luiz.

You've been ridiculous ever since you arrived on the site but this might be the worst thing you've ever posted. If this is your honest opinion and not just another bad attempt at trolling it explains a hell of a lot about why you post the amount of nonsense you do.

Petrov was a good player who did well for us and is a club legend because of a number of things but he's nowhere near the same standard that Luiz has been for us under Emery.

In your opinion which isn't relevant to me. I watched Petrov for seasons play superbly not just a 12 month renaissance under a new manager. Luiz is a good player but there is a reason why Emery has sacrificed him. I understand Emery's decision and back it.

As I said, this sums up why I disagree with almost everything you post, you're clearly looking for something completely different in players.

As a playmaker the player has to set the tempo, keep the ball moving , have limited errors in dangerous areas, give minimal fouls away in dangerous areas. I've seen the best and worst of Luiz , he's a good player with flaws (too slow at times , gets caught, gives away silly fouls) We played some of our best team football last season when he wasn't playing. Ask yourself why Emery has allowed him to leave .

[PaulWinch again]

Did we? I can think of one game in the second half of the season that could compete for our “best football” and that’s Arsenal away. All of the other games I can think of came in the first half of the season with Doug playing.

[paul_e]

Did we? I can think of one game in the second half of the season that could compete for our “best football” and that’s Arsenal away. All of the other games I can think of came in the first half of the season with Doug playing.

Exactly. Luiz was one of the top 2-3 central midfielders in the league in 2023 and I don't understand why anyone would be so determined to argue against that.

In his best season for us Petrov got 4 goals and 2 assists (I know there's more to the role than that but this is a simple comparison). Luiz had more than that before the end of November and even in his 'bad' half of the season he got 4 goals and 3 assists (one of which was THAT pass against Sheff Utd which is one of the most perfect through balls I've ever seen).

The Tielemans comparison I'm okay with, personally I think Luiz is the more complete player of the 2 but I can see the arguments for both sides.

[pauliewalnuts]

Did we? I can think of one game in the second half of the season that could compete for our “best football” and that’s Arsenal away. All of the other games I can think of came in the first half of the season with Doug playing.

Correct.

[PaulWinch again]

And as for Unai being willing to let him go, I suspect that’s because we had PSR issues and he wants to move on. So it makes sense in the round, but let’s not try and rewrite history and pretend we’re better off without him. We’re not and we’ll need to find a way to make up for the gap he leaves.

[john e]

Prime Luiz or Prime Petrov is a good one

It’s to close to call for me