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Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2220 on: June 03, 2024, 08:51:18 PM »
I know they're different characters, but it has the feeling of a Paul Merson situation. That worked out pretty well, and if Barkley doesn't, it's not a lot of money.
His wages will be quite big, I'd imagine? That said, I'm firmly in the "if anyone can get a tune out of him, Unai can" camp.
If Unai can squeeze 8/9 out of 10 performances out of him then it will be a good move. Back up for Luiz / McGinn ?
Not if that is it over 2 seasons ... with 3 times that number of 3 or 4 out of 10 performances.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2221 on: June 03, 2024, 08:52:08 PM »
My Luton supporter friend says we are getting an absolute gem, so that’s nice to hear!

He was the main dawg there and loved accordingly. He won't be, here so it'll be interesting to see his attitude when he doesn't start/is subbed cos last time it stunk.

Very interesting, I think Barkley would have been best returning to Everton or some other club where he would have started most weeks. Competing with likes of Luiz, McGinn, Tielemans and Ramsey...don't see him being a regular and it wasn't a position we need to strengthen in any case.

I'm 💯 against this signing, was totally against him the first time and he was a 12m disaster, smaller fee this time but spots and leopards come to mind. In saying all that, all the best Rosco!

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2222 on: June 03, 2024, 09:36:24 PM »
I still suspect we will sell Ramsey for £40m and use the money to buy a genuine DCM.

It’s a massive shame but balances the books, keeps the nucleus of last year’s team together and the DCM strengthens the squad.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2223 on: June 03, 2024, 09:37:49 PM »
I know they're different characters, but it has the feeling of a Paul Merson situation. That worked out pretty well, and if Barkley doesn't, it's not a lot of money.
His wages will be quite big, I'd imagine? That said, I'm firmly in the "if anyone can get a tune out of him, Unai can" camp.
If Unai can squeeze 8/9 out of 10 performances out of him then it will be a good move. Back up for Luiz / McGinn ?
Not if that is it over 2 seasons ... with 3 times that number of 3 or 4 out of 10 performances.
Yup that's the red flag.
A leopard doesn't change its spots . As you were.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2224 on: June 03, 2024, 09:38:05 PM »
Who is buying an injured Ramsey for £40m?

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2225 on: June 03, 2024, 09:40:28 PM »
Who is buying an injured Ramsey for £40m?

Liverpool were linked at £50m a week or so back.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2226 on: June 03, 2024, 09:41:35 PM »
Who is buying an injured Ramsey for £40m?

It's a fair old punt. Ferguson bought RvN after an ACL didn't he? Ramsey is a quality player but he has missed a full season. If we have to sell it will be one of Watkins or Luiz surely.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2227 on: June 03, 2024, 09:48:16 PM »
Ramsey is worth a lot more than £40m

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2228 on: June 03, 2024, 10:09:19 PM »
I plucked £40m from nowhere, however I do feel its the sort of figure that most top ten clubs could spend without too many issues and the player would still be considered a a squad player in the ‘big six’.  Above £50m and the number of clubs with enough cash reduces massively.

So £40m is market driven figure rather than a reflection on Ramsey’s worth.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2229 on: June 03, 2024, 10:13:15 PM »
Who is buying an injured Ramsey for £40m?

It's a fair old punt. Ferguson bought RvN after an ACL didn't he? Ramsey is a quality player but he has missed a full season. If we have to sell it will be one of Watkins or Luiz surely.
If we were to cash in on core player, it must be luiz.  He's got to be worth 60m+, has had a good season which only increases the value.  And I think he is more replaceable.  Ramsey would be selling him on the "cheap" due to the risk factor of him having a reoccurring injury. 

Watkins and Emi are too difficult to replace.  Other players like Carlos, Cash and Digne could also be sold but I wouldn't say they were key. (as good as they have been, particularly Digne last season).

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2230 on: June 03, 2024, 10:24:28 PM »
Ramsey is worth a lot more than £40m
Yes but a crocked Ramsey?
1. Doubtfull any one is buying until his fitness is proven.
2. We would get a lot more money for a fit and able Ramsey.


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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2231 on: June 03, 2024, 10:29:00 PM »
Pray he's on a short deal (1 year) or some sort of pay as you go deal.
A 3 year deal for this player won't end well.

Lighten up Tim, it may even work out well? Come on man

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2232 on: June 03, 2024, 10:39:23 PM »
Ramsey is worth a lot more than £40m
Yes but a crocked Ramsey?
1. Doubtfull any one is buying until his fitness is proven.
2. We would get a lot more money for a fit and able Ramsey.

Most medics would be able to tell if a foot bone is fully healed or not now he has been given 3 months to heal rather then 6 weeks.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2233 on: June 03, 2024, 10:57:54 PM »
I still suspect we will sell Ramsey for £40m and use the money to buy a genuine DCM.

It’s a massive shame but balances the books, keeps the nucleus of last year’s team together and the DCM strengthens the squad.

I’m pretty sure we can afford a good DCM without having to sell anybody we don’t want to.

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Re: Ross Barkley: Coming back?
« Reply #2234 on: June 03, 2024, 11:14:35 PM »
.His talent has never been in doubt,even Xavi rated his technical skills.That talent seemed to have been wasted by poor workrate and fitness.A move to Luton looked like the confirmation of that.But then he looked sharper,fitter and a hard working player at long last.
He will be playing in front of a full VP instead of a pandemic empty one.He will be playing in s team geared to possession with other ball playing midfielders and coached by Unai.Any talented player would relish that and Champions League as an added bonus.

 


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