Ross Barkley

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His face was pretty neutral, but stripping off was a bit odd.

[Tuscans]

Did Barkley throw a strop when subbed again (I only saw up to the 65th min)?
The guy needs benching at the very least. He offers nothing and has contributed to the lack of cohesion in our midfield 3.
I don't really want to see any more loans again if they come with conditions (I'm guessing loaning Barkley has some).
Aston Villa should not be used by a player attached to a different club to further their international ambitions at the expense of our team (especially when they are so lacking). We are better than that. Besides we have our own players we need to be giving game time to to further their ambitions

Head down, sitting on the advertising boards, taking one boots off then walking to the corner, taking another boot off, then sat back down, took a sock off and on and on and on it went until he got to the dug out.

[Duncan Shaw]

When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering

[Tuscans]

When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering

Attitude. One's realised his career is heading in the wilderness, the penny hasn't dropped for the other.

[simboy]

When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering

That’s harsh. You’re forgetting goals against Leicester and Southampton that won games and against Liverpool he was awesome, creating a number of goals.

Accept he’s poor at the minute but he’s played more than Lingard and contributed more than him this season.

Mind you I’d drop him for Ramsey next game.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Did Barkley throw a strop when subbed again (I only saw up to the 65th min)?
The guy needs benching at the very least. He offers nothing and has contributed to the lack of cohesion in our midfield 3.
I don't really want to see any more loans again if they come with conditions (I'm guessing loaning Barkley has some).
Aston Villa should not be used by a player attached to a different club to further their international ambitions at the expense of our team (especially when they are so lacking). We are better than that. Besides we have our own players we need to be giving game time to to further their ambitions

Head down, sitting on the advertising boards, taking one boots off then walking to the corner, taking another boot off, then sat back down, took a sock off and on and on and on it went until he got to the dug out.

Thanks Tuscans.
By the sounds of it, the most deliberate thing he did all game.

[Tuscans]

When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering

That’s harsh. You’re forgetting goals against Leicester and Southampton that won games and against Liverpool he was awesome, creating a number of goals.

Accept he’s poor at the minute but he’s played more than Lingard and contributed more than him this season.

Mind you I’d drop him for Ramsey next game.

That's not true. Both have 3 goals and one assist.

[SoccerHQ]

Did Barkley throw a strop when subbed again (I only saw up to the 65th min)?
The guy needs benching at the very least. He offers nothing and has contributed to the lack of cohesion in our midfield 3.
I don't really want to see any more loans again if they come with conditions (I'm guessing loaning Barkley has some).
Aston Villa should not be used by a player attached to a different club to further their international ambitions at the expense of our team (especially when they are so lacking). We are better than that. Besides we have our own players we need to be giving game time to to further their ambitions

Head down, sitting on the advertising boards, taking one boots off then walking to the corner, taking another boot off, then sat back down, took a sock off and on and on and on it went until he got to the dug out.

It's annoying me tbh. Of course no player should be happy subbed and you can understand it if a player one week feels he hasn't done himself justice but he's done this 3-4 times in last month now.

Did he do this every time he was subbed for Chelsea last season? I imagine he just jogged off the pitch so think in his mind it's a status issue and he should be left on as long as possible as we don't have the quality Chelsea do.

[AV82EC]

He's obviously as frustrated with the situation as we all are but you don't get plaudits for behaving like he does when substituted you take it on the chin then vow to come back stronger and prove it with your performance.  Quite what his teammates make of it I'm not sure but I'd like to think some of the stronger voices in the dressing room call him out on it IF he is acting the billy big bollocks.

[Mellin]

I don't mind the stropping for being subbed. We all laughed when Grealish did it. I do mind the drop in performance level though. Looked like he was trying today dropping deep to get something going, but not going for him at all at the min. Needs time out the team.

[taylorsworkrate]

when your performance was as pathetic as Barkleys was today, you have zero right to throw a strop when subbed

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

He wouldn't have got away with these pitchside sulks playing for Ron Saunders.
I suggest he starts putting in 110% effort on the training ground and (if selected) on match days, he may then find his form starts to improve.

[Tuscans]

Did Barkley throw a strop when subbed again (I only saw up to the 65th min)?
The guy needs benching at the very least. He offers nothing and has contributed to the lack of cohesion in our midfield 3.
I don't really want to see any more loans again if they come with conditions (I'm guessing loaning Barkley has some).
Aston Villa should not be used by a player attached to a different club to further their international ambitions at the expense of our team (especially when they are so lacking). We are better than that. Besides we have our own players we need to be giving game time to to further their ambitions

Head down, sitting on the advertising boards, taking one boots off then walking to the corner, taking another boot off, then sat back down, took a sock off and on and on and on it went until he got to the dug out.

It's annoying me tbh. Of course no player should be happy subbed and you can understand it if a player one week feels he hasn't done himself justice but he's done this 3-4 times in last month now.

Did he do this every time he was subbed for Chelsea last season? I imagine he just jogged off the pitch so think in his mind it's a status issue and he should be left on as long as possible as we don't have the quality Chelsea do.

Could be. Obviously we don't know him but he does act like how dare you sub me, do you know who I am? He has the Ozils about him, just worse.

[simboy]

When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering

That’s harsh. You’re forgetting goals against Leicester and Southampton that won games and against Liverpool he was awesome, creating a number of goals.

Accept he’s poor at the minute but he’s played more than Lingard and contributed more than him this season.

Mind you I’d drop him for Ramsey next game.

That's not true. Both have 3 goals and one assist.

However, you could argue scoring the goal in a 1-0 win is more beneficial. In truth comparison of impact has to be over all games played not just the last three or four, Barkley was played in a more withdrawn role for some of his games than Lingard, so clean sheets?

 Hes contributed but that has fallen off a cliff since the injury and then the COVID outbreak. That doesn’t mean he should get sympathy, as he’s been poor by the standards we expected over the last few games.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

He suffers from asthma, maybe he doesn't have it in the tank anymore.

Beckham, Paula Radcliffe, Mo Farah.