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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #960 on: February 13, 2021, 10:54:57 PM »
I’d put Ramsey far ahead of Sansom in the queue.

Offline danno

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #961 on: February 13, 2021, 10:57:09 PM »
Not sure how he got 75 minutes, Dean must have forgotten he was out there.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #962 on: February 13, 2021, 11:01:22 PM »
Barkley seems to loiter around the middle of the park not too far away from Ollie. I’d rather have Jack there doing that and have either Ramsey or Sansom in the team.

Our midfield isn’t working very well. Not just Ross, but Jack, Doug and McGinn are struggling for form.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #963 on: February 13, 2021, 11:10:41 PM »
Rubbish.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #964 on: February 13, 2021, 11:26:17 PM »
Don’t win anything with waffer thin squads.

Apart from his brilliant header  - he has been disappointing (shit) the last few game.

But we are in this for the long haul.

I firmly think Ross could be part of our squad to take us on the journey.

Its all about belief and attitude - especially in this day and age  - when most of these over paid arses don’t have anything to nail their colours to the mast.

Ross strikes me as someone who is onboard for our journey. 
« Last Edit: February 13, 2021, 11:31:16 PM by TonyD »

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #965 on: February 13, 2021, 11:33:00 PM »
He's not worth anything near what we will be quoted by Chelsea though, at the moment he is surely playing himself out of a transfer as no one in their right mind is going to pour £60 odd million in to what he is giving us in fees and wages. Much better value elsewhere if he keeps his current form up.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #966 on: February 13, 2021, 11:56:25 PM »
He's not worth anything near what we will be quoted by Chelsea though, at the moment he is surely playing himself out of a transfer as no one in their right mind is going to pour £60 odd million in to what he is giving us in fees and wages. Much better value elsewhere if he keeps his current form up.
Nobody knows what Chelsea want for Ross - or what we value his services for.

Chelsea’s wage bill is eye watering. Probably the highest in the world if you consider the huge amount of good players  - both under 21s - 1st team AND on loan.

Ross isn’t part of their plans TBH.

So to the big question - how much?

I’d say £18/25M. 

« Last Edit: February 13, 2021, 11:58:58 PM by TonyD »

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #967 on: February 14, 2021, 12:00:14 AM »
Realistically what do you think Ross Barkley would cost and how much would he demand wage wise? It would be an obscene amount for someone who just doesn't do enough for me.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #968 on: February 14, 2021, 12:04:02 AM »
Realistically what do you think Ross Barkley would cost and how much would he demand wage wise? It would be an obscene amount for someone who just doesn't do enough for me.
As above £18m
Wages  - god knows

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #969 on: February 14, 2021, 12:16:23 AM »
Realistically what do you think Ross Barkley would cost and how much would he demand wage wise? It would be an obscene amount for someone who just doesn't do enough for me.

Only thing I can say is getting him full time would impress other players. I doubt they're analysing his 90 minute contribution like we are but it would be...."oh Villa, near euro miss, signing Barkley full time, Jack Grealish, where do I sign etc"

Very hard to justify paying 20m + for him based on his performances since coming back from injury though. I knew he was an inconsistant player who held onto the ball way too long and was very frustrating in final third at Everton and Chelsea but he's not even doing much of that currently and also seems as bad v Hourihane playing mega press teams.

Will be a complete passenger v Leeds in two weeks for example.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #970 on: February 14, 2021, 12:19:36 AM »
I’d put Ramsey far ahead of Sansom in the queue.

Possibly.  Do think we need some real energy in that position, with someone who can support Watkins in pressing the opposition defence and can work back and help the midfield. 

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #971 on: February 14, 2021, 12:23:37 AM »
Realistically what do you think Ross Barkley would cost and how much would he demand wage wise? It would be an obscene amount for someone who just doesn't do enough for me.

Only thing I can say is getting him full time would impress other players. I doubt they're analysing his 90 minute contribution like we are but it would be...."oh Villa, near euro miss, signing Barkley full time, Jack Grealish, where do I sign etc"

Very hard to justify paying 20m + for him based on his performances since coming back from injury though. I knew he was an inconsistant player who held onto the ball way too long and was very frustrating in final third at Everton and Chelsea but he's not even doing much of that currently and also seems as bad v Hourihane playing mega press teams.

Will be a complete passenger v Leeds in two weeks for example.

I think sending him back would possibly send an even bigger message. "Sorry son, you're not consistent enough for where we want to be."

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #972 on: February 14, 2021, 12:30:14 AM »
Realistically what do you think Ross Barkley would cost and how much would he demand wage wise? It would be an obscene amount for someone who just doesn't do enough for me.

Only thing I can say is getting him full time would impress other players. I doubt they're analysing his 90 minute contribution like we are but it would be...."oh Villa, near euro miss, signing Barkley full time, Jack Grealish, where do I sign etc"

Very hard to justify paying 20m + for him based on his performances since coming back from injury though. I knew he was an inconsistant player who held onto the ball way too long and was very frustrating in final third at Everton and Chelsea but he's not even doing much of that currently and also seems as bad v Hourihane playing mega press teams.

Will be a complete passenger v Leeds in two weeks for example.

I think sending him back would possibly send an even bigger message. "Sorry son, you're not consistent enough for where we want to be."
It’s a gamble.

How do Dean n Co think of Ramsey’s ability and Morgan to fill the gap.
I am no fan of Nakamba.  I could be wrong. But don’t think he is top 6 material.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #973 on: February 14, 2021, 12:55:30 AM »
What does he actually bring in the position he plays? Not a lot. One assist, three goals in a position where your numbers should be higher than that, in what is a very good attacking team. He's always been a myth for me, Barkley. He's embarrassing to watch when you see the pressure Watkins puts on the whole back line, in possession he seems sideways, afraid to make a killer pass and for his frame size he's so timid to make a black or tackle.

The 15-16 games he's had I personally wouldn't take him. I would love him to prove me wrong whilst he's here but I have never and still don't rate him as a No.10.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #974 on: February 14, 2021, 01:24:31 AM »
I've come to the conclusion Ross has a mental blockage. He's not a happy chap. He's carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. Thankfully, as Mrs RCF pointed out, he's got a fat neck.

 


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