Ross Barkley

[Rigadon]

Well, the club will have seen his general fitness and will make a call on whether it’s a risk (50 million or whatever) worth taking.  Would be a good sign of things to come if we did get him permanently.  Even better if he actually plays some football!

[ChicagoLion]

Chelsea will not be getting any where near 50 million.
This is a small fee + a 1 year contract with an option to extend type deal.
Chelsea have too many midfielders and will be pleased to get him off the books.

[SoccerHQ]

Yeah they'll sell for 25-30m imo. No one else in this league is paying 30m + for him so given he's already here we're in pole position.

[SoccerHQ]

He’s a busted flush.

Again too many injuries. (Not really played for 2 years).

He played 55 games in 18/19. 35 last season but a few of those would've been him as unused sub given Chelsea's number of CMs.

Think the injury problems were more at Everton where he broke his leg and had the hamstring issues that plauge him now.

It's all very frustrating. If he wasn't close to coming back for xmas period just don't say it as disappointing scanning the team news every game and not seeing his name on the bench.

I was talking about delve ali

Dele Alli played 45 times for club and country in 18/19, 38 games last season with no national team call ups.

I wouldn't say averaging 40 games a season is that injury prone. Kienan Davis by contrast has played 42 times for us since January 2018.

[oldhill_avfc]

He’s a busted flush.

Again too many injuries. (Not really played for 2 years).

He played 55 games in 18/19. 35 last season but a few of those would've been him as unused sub given Chelsea's number of CMs.

Think the injury problems were more at Everton where he broke his leg and had the hamstring issues that plauge him now.

It's all very frustrating. If he wasn't close to coming back for xmas period just don't say it as disappointing scanning the team news every game and not seeing his name on the bench.

I was talking about delve ali

Dele Alli played 45 times for club and country in 18/19, 38 games last season with no national team call ups.

I wouldn't say averaging 40 games a season is that injury prone. Kienan Davis by contrast has played 42 times for us since January 2018.

My main point is he's been hit severely by injuries, starting at the World Cup, then never fully recovering before being injured again soon after.

His starting appearances in the premier league since have been well down - he wasn't a first choice starter for Pochetino in his last year and hasn't been for Mourinho either. 

He may have played more than I though, but injuries have certainly taken their toll on his performance level.  The last season he got into double figures for premier league goals was 2016-17.

[ChicagoLion]

Yes he has never hit the same levels since the WC. He has not had an extended run in the team either.

[Risso]

Alli has scored a lot more goals in the last few years than Barkley has.  Alli 'only' got 8 Premier League goals last season. I'd be amazed if any of our midfielders incuding Barkley get that many this season.

[oldhill_avfc]

He's behind N'dombele, Moura, Bergwyn, LeCelso, Bale ..... given that we wouldn't want any of them either I can't really see what he would add - maybe on a freebie/loan but not at the money Levy would want or indeed will be offered by PSG.

[oldhill_avfc]

Alli has scored a lot more goals in the last few years than Barkley has.  Alli 'only' got 8 Premier League goals last season. I'd be amazed if any of our midfielders incuding Barkley get that many this season.

So you think All plays midfield?

[passport1]

I'll be glad to see him join that chancer Poch at PSG.

[Risso]

Alli has scored a lot more goals in the last few years than Barkley has.  Alli 'only' got 8 Premier League goals last season. I'd be amazed if any of our midfielders incuding Barkley get that many this season.

So you think All plays midfield?

He's an attacking midfielder, yes. When Spurs play a 4-4-2 he plays behind Son and Kane. When they play a 4-2-3-1 he plays in the attacking three. Not much this season, obviously.

[brontebilly]

Alli is one of those players that doesn't really have a position. Doesn't have the discipline or passing ability for midfield. Not quick enough for out wide. Not sure he is all that creative for just off the main striker where he has been playing for a number of years. Mourinho clearly trying everything to get rid of him but I think the fact of it is that Son has kicked on a couple of levels in recent years and adds a lot of threat on the counter attack that Alli wouldn't.

Still only 24 though and more than capable of getting his career back on track post Mourinho like many have before aka KdeB, Salah etc

[eamonn]

Hard to believe he's younger than Jack. I think the Poch-PSG rumours are most likely true though.

[Smithy]

Alli would be an amazing signing, but I think he's beyond us right now.  He'd want a champions league challenge, I'd imagine. 

Then again, I'd have said similar about Barkley in the summer, so who knows?  I'd love us to have a midfield that could play a mixture of McGinn, Grealish, Barkley, Alli, and Luiz.  Imagine having had one of those to come off the bench at Old Trafford to try and change things...

[tomd2103]

In our formation, Alli would have to play in the attacking midfield role and we already have Barkley, Grealish, McGinn and Ramsey who can ay there.  It would be an unnecessary luxury for me and I think it would be more of a defensive midfider we would need.