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Offline chrisw1

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #510 on: November 13, 2020, 11:20:18 AM »
I wish people wouldn't be so disrepctful and call Conor 'holgram.'

He has been an incredibly important player for us and created and scored loads of goals during his time with us - including a vital goal in the play off Semis.  Whatever his limitations round the park, he has been one of our most productive players for the last 3 years.

It's true that we needed and upgrade or at least competition for him and yes Barkley is a better all round player.  But for fucks sake have some respect for a player who has played a massive part in our revival and the good times we have had over the last 3 years.


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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #511 on: November 13, 2020, 11:32:38 AM »
I don't see the point of being negative about any of our players. What does it achieve? It maybe warranted in cases where a player is only interested in picking up a salary and doesn't care about the club but when it's a player who that can't be said about, I really don't think its clever.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #512 on: November 13, 2020, 12:00:02 PM »
Some people can't resist their playground jibes against some of our professional players. What they probably don't realise it says more about them than the player(s) they're trying to belittle.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #513 on: November 13, 2020, 12:28:12 PM »
I wish people wouldn't be so disrepctful and call Conor 'holgram.'

He has been an incredibly important player for us and created and scored loads of goals during his time with us - including a vital goal in the play off Semis.  Whatever his limitations round the park, he has been one of our most productive players for the last 3 years.

It's true that we needed and upgrade or at least competition for him and yes Barkley is a better all round player.  But for fucks sake have some respect for a player who has played a massive part in our revival and the good times we have had over the last 3 years.



yeh I don't like it either. He may not be the best player in the world and as I said a solid squad player at PL level for a team aspiring for the upper echelons of the table. For us, since he joined he has absolutely played a crucial role in our promotion, survival, our good start this season and comes across as an excellent pro and all round good person.
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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #514 on: November 13, 2020, 12:53:28 PM »
Conor should be held up as an example to youngsters let go by clubs.  This, is what you can still achieve, pick yourselves up, source a new club, work hard and your opportunities will come.  You may never be the best player but you can prove the doubters wrong.  Conor has achieved what most of us could only have dreamed of: gaining moves to higher level clubs until finally reaching the Premier League in which he played more than a minor role in helping his club achieve that goal.  Conor, you deserve to be remembered by the Villa faithful for the right reasons; as I'm sure you will be.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #515 on: November 13, 2020, 01:47:12 PM »
I wish people wouldn't be so disrepctful and call Conor 'holgram.'

He has been an incredibly important player for us and created and scored loads of goals during his time with us - including a vital goal in the play off Semis.  Whatever his limitations round the park, he has been one of our most productive players for the last 3 years.

It's true that we needed and upgrade or at least competition for him and yes Barkley is a better all round player.  But for fucks sake have some respect for a player who has played a massive part in our revival and the good times we have had over the last 3 years.


Me too, he's been an excellent signing for us and he's a fantastic pro and a great role model.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #516 on: November 13, 2020, 01:58:31 PM »
Conor should be held up as an example to youngsters let go by clubs.  This, is what you can still achieve, pick yourselves up, source a new club, work hard and your opportunities will come.  You may never be the best player but you can prove the doubters wrong.  Conor has achieved what most of us could only have dreamed of: gaining moves to higher level clubs until finally reaching the Premier League in which he played more than a minor role in helping his club achieve that goal.  Conor, you deserve to be remembered by the Villa faithful for the right reasons; as I'm sure you will be.

Exactly right - he's scored at all four levels as well and made his way up the hard way through his own determination.  And for someone who apparently isn't that good, you would be hard-pressed to come up with another player with a better top 5 goals for Villa than Conor.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #517 on: November 13, 2020, 02:35:23 PM »
Conor should be held up as an example to youngsters let go by clubs.  This, is what you can still achieve, pick yourselves up, source a new club, work hard and your opportunities will come.  You may never be the best player but you can prove the doubters wrong.  Conor has achieved what most of us could only have dreamed of: gaining moves to higher level clubs until finally reaching the Premier League in which he played more than a minor role in helping his club achieve that goal.  Conor, you deserve to be remembered by the Villa faithful for the right reasons; as I'm sure you will be.

Exactly right - he's scored at all four levels as well and made his way up the hard way through his own determination.  And for someone who apparently isn't that good, you would be hard-pressed to come up with another player with a better top 5 goals for Villa than Conor.
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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #518 on: November 13, 2020, 02:41:31 PM »
I wish people wouldn't be so disrepctful and call Conor 'holgram.'

He has been an incredibly important player for us and created and scored loads of goals during his time with us - including a vital goal in the play off Semis.  Whatever his limitations round the park, he has been one of our most productive players for the last 3 years.

It's true that we needed and upgrade or at least competition for him and yes Barkley is a better all round player.  But for fucks sake have some respect for a player who has played a massive part in our revival and the good times we have had over the last 3 years.



Agreed.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #519 on: November 13, 2020, 02:58:08 PM »
I get some of the criticism of him.  Ideally you want a central midfielder who comes in and - if he plays well- dictates the pace of the game. Conor has a good shot on him and does weigh in with valuable assists from dead balls. But the game even in the championship can pass him by at times.

I like him, and as others said, he did as much as anyone to get us up.

I don't pan El Ghazi for the same reason, even if he frustrates the hell out of me at times. Conor is probably operating at close to his maximum ability-wise to even be an option for a Premier League side. El Ghazi has enough natural ability to be a starter for at least a top 10-12 PL club. But the focus isn't there. Yet, at least.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #520 on: November 13, 2020, 03:32:12 PM »
I get some of the criticism of him.  Ideally you want a central midfielder who comes in and - if he plays well- dictates the pace of the game. Conor has a good shot on him and does weigh in with valuable assists from dead balls. But the game even in the championship can pass him by at times.

I like him, and as others said, he did as much as anyone to get us up.

I don't pan El Ghazi for the same reason, even if he frustrates the hell out of me at times. Conor is probably operating at close to his maximum ability-wise to even be an option for a Premier League side. El Ghazi has enough natural ability to be a starter for at least a top 10-12 PL club. But the focus isn't there. Yet, at least.

I agree about Conor.  At his best he's good enough for any side outside of the 7 or 8 clubs, but as all successful clubs do, we're moving on and steadily improving.  Not sure I agree about El Ghazi. I think he's strictly a Championship/lower Premier League level player in terms of ability, and a lack of application means he doesn't make the most of what he has got.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #521 on: November 13, 2020, 03:35:32 PM »
I get some of the criticism of him.  Ideally you want a central midfielder who comes in and - if he plays well- dictates the pace of the game. Conor has a good shot on him and does weigh in with valuable assists from dead balls. But the game even in the championship can pass him by at times.

I like him, and as others said, he did as much as anyone to get us up.

I don't pan El Ghazi for the same reason, even if he frustrates the hell out of me at times. Conor is probably operating at close to his maximum ability-wise to even be an option for a Premier League side. El Ghazi has enough natural ability to be a starter for at least a top 10-12 PL club. But the focus isn't there. Yet, at least.

I agree about Conor.  At his best he's good enough for any side outside of the 7 or 8 clubs, but as all successful clubs do, we're moving on and steadily improving.  Not sure I agree about El Ghazi. I think he's strictly a Championship/lower Premier League level player in terms of ability, and a lack of application means he doesn't make the most of what he has got.

Yes. I hate saying any of our players are shit, but AEG is, and it's all his own doing. Conor is the opposite. He makes the most of all he's got, which sometimes isn't enough, but that's true of everyone.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #522 on: November 13, 2020, 03:45:58 PM »
It’s all a bit distasteful to speak of players as if they were commodities, but they are well compensated and I suppose have to deal with both sides of the profession.

We are usually too quick to judge. Trezeguet was deemed surplus to requirements (that’s a nice way of putting it) by most but he has arguably been one of the best players this season. No need to mention all the other ex villa players who were cast aside too early and are currently plying their trade at other clubs, often very successfully.

I think the current upper echelons of our club are pretty decent and will treat everyone with respect and make the right judgement calls, including that of Conor.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #523 on: November 13, 2020, 03:57:53 PM »
Hourihane isn't shit - he's just not good enough to be in our best team :)

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #524 on: November 13, 2020, 04:07:26 PM »
Conor isn’t shit, Ross is an upgrade, which is what teams with aspirations tend to do

 


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