Watkins impressed me massively tonight. Finishing aside, not seen a striker work the channels, run so much, and generally bully a back 4 like that up front for Villa for years.
Quote from: Nii Lamptey on September 28, 2020, 10:24:36 PMQuote from: pelty on September 28, 2020, 08:42:46 PMQuote from: Luffbralion on September 28, 2020, 08:41:07 PMAnybody else think the criticism of Targett is both predictable and excessive?No. He is terrible.Yes, terrible. And it’s not one game either - been saying it since last season. His job, first and foremost is to defend, not look fancy doing cheeky one/twos with Jack on the touch line. You could drive a bus through the gap between him and the guy he should be closing down. If he can’t stop Fulham’s supply line, we’re in for a rude awakening on Sunday when he’s up against Trent Alexander-Arnold. I’d love to play that game back and see how many successful attempts at blocking a cross he made. From memory, it was one.... with his arse. Even Mings was heard screaming at him at one point.I’d play him again against Stoke and stick Freddie at LB against Liverpool. Guilbert is the best option we currently have for that position, even as a right footer.How do you know? Yes, Fulham swung plenty of balls into our box, but I don't recall him being skinned for any that they pulled back from the byline, they were almost entirely all hopeful lobs in from 30 yards back up the touchline towards one bloke being more than ably marshalled. To me that looked like a calculated tactic, and with it we pretty much negated their primary weapon. They couldn't turn us and Mitrovic wasn't coming on to anything, all his ammunition had no pace and was coming from behind him.
Quote from: pelty on September 28, 2020, 08:42:46 PMQuote from: Luffbralion on September 28, 2020, 08:41:07 PMAnybody else think the criticism of Targett is both predictable and excessive?No. He is terrible.Yes, terrible. And it’s not one game either - been saying it since last season. His job, first and foremost is to defend, not look fancy doing cheeky one/twos with Jack on the touch line. You could drive a bus through the gap between him and the guy he should be closing down. If he can’t stop Fulham’s supply line, we’re in for a rude awakening on Sunday when he’s up against Trent Alexander-Arnold. I’d love to play that game back and see how many successful attempts at blocking a cross he made. From memory, it was one.... with his arse. Even Mings was heard screaming at him at one point.I’d play him again against Stoke and stick Freddie at LB against Liverpool. Guilbert is the best option we currently have for that position, even as a right footer.
Quote from: Luffbralion on September 28, 2020, 08:41:07 PMAnybody else think the criticism of Targett is both predictable and excessive?No. He is terrible.
Anybody else think the criticism of Targett is both predictable and excessive?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2020, 08:32:15 PMWas that there or Loftus Road?We beat them once at Loftus Road, 2-1, Angel and Vassell where Bocanegra tried to remove Delaney’s (?) shin.
Was that there or Loftus Road?
thought we did okay - gave the ball away too much, and Watkins on the last 2 games I have seen is not a centre forward, he lacks the physical presence to play that positionIf we could sign Mitrovic - for me he would be ideal.
... Only worry is Watkins no way is he a 30 million pound striker.
Quote from: Nii Lamptey on September 28, 2020, 10:24:36 PMQuote from: pelty on September 28, 2020, 08:42:46 PMQuote from: Luffbralion on September 28, 2020, 08:41:07 PMAnybody else think the criticism of Targett is both predictable and excessive?No. He is terrible.Yes, terrible. And it’s not one game either - been saying it since last season. His job, first and foremost is to defend, not look fancy doing cheeky one/twos with Jack on the touch line. You could drive a bus through the gap between him and the guy he should be closing down. If he can’t stop Fulham’s supply line, we’re in for a rude awakening on Sunday when he’s up against Trent Alexander-Arnold. I’d love to play that game back and see how many successful attempts at blocking a cross he made. From memory, it was one.... with his arse. Even Mings was heard screaming at him at one point.I’d play him again against Stoke and stick Freddie at LB against Liverpool. Guilbert is the best option we currently have for that position, even as a right footer.The defensive side of it can be subjective, as the modern fullback plays in a different way to the traditional one whose sole purpose was not to get beaten by the opposing winger. They generally play higher - and that will lead to people getting in behind. Kyle Walker was as good a fullback as he had in recent years and you could see the attacking quality from the outset. But he was caught out on plenty of occasions. It's often risk and reward now - you hope the attacking fullback has enough quality or ties up the opposition winger enough to offset the few times he's caught out - and even the very best ones do get caught high. With Targett, the current problem is as well as being a liability defensively he isn't offering a whole pile in the final third either. His distribution tonight - when we were 2-0 and cruising - was also shocking. Just miscuing simple passes under no pressure. I still think there's quality there. And if we played a formation where he became the free man either in a back three or wide of the left in midfield, he could be effective for us. But he shouldn't be starting at fullback.
Quote from: ozzjim on September 28, 2020, 11:00:33 PMWatkins impressed me massively tonight. Finishing aside, not seen a striker work the channels, run so much, and generally bully a back 4 like that up front for Villa for years. Completely agree. He's got so much running in him. I was surprised how much he won in the air too. There were also a couple of times he took the ball down really well and immediately brought other players into the game. Takes up superb positions, finds space, gets round of the back of the defence. Defends from the front. Links up well with Jack. He could easily have had three last night. Going to be a star player for us.
Quote from: fbriai on September 29, 2020, 07:41:53 AMQuote from: ozzjim on September 28, 2020, 11:00:33 PMWatkins impressed me massively tonight. Finishing aside, not seen a striker work the channels, run so much, and generally bully a back 4 like that up front for Villa for years. Completely agree. He's got so much running in him. I was surprised how much he won in the air too. There were also a couple of times he took the ball down really well and immediately brought other players into the game. Takes up superb positions, finds space, gets round of the back of the defence. Defends from the front. Links up well with Jack. He could easily have had three last night. Going to be a star player for us.Agree. Watkins runs the line really well, linking up play, bringing others into play, he also made some great runs that grealish didn’t find, but hopefully will as we play more games. He just needs a premier league goal and he’ll be up and away. Wes took till Xmas to even look remotely like he knew how to run the line and Samatta never looked like it. If some don’t see Watkins as a striker they must be looking for something very different in their forward.
Absolutely agree with this, I'm amazed that any Villa fan would have watched him last night and not be exited by what he brings to the team.