Teams we'll finish above next season

[cdbearsfan]

I'm pretty sure we were third favourites to go down before the season started last summer. Concerned me along the lines of "bookies don't get it wrong". I understand the concept of the odds being automatically changed depending on who's lumping on but it begs the question of who is betting on Brighton to finish top 4?

I would imagine there are some ludicrously optimistic Brighton fans. Either a decent number of them or a small number with lots of money.

[Sdwbvf]

And an optimistic Villa fan is an oxymoron😄

[Brend'Watkins]

I'm pretty sure we were third favourites to go down before the season started last summer. Concerned me along the lines of "bookies don't get it wrong". I understand the concept of the odds being automatically changed depending on who's lumping on but it begs the question of who is betting on Brighton to finish top 4?

I would imagine there are some ludicrously optimistic Brighton fans. Either a decent number of them or a small number with lots of money.

Norman Cook has obviously loaded heavy and he's got Nick Cave in on it too. 

[Risso]

If you look at Oddschecker, their average odds for the top 4 are below ours, as you'd expect. Each club has a few strange outliers, which may just be something like special offers.

[Brazilian Villain]

His odds to join went in massively a few days before he signed, we were favourites to sign him having not really been in the running beforehand. I would suggest somebody, or a few people, who were in the know made a few quid out of that transfer.

We should have an algorithm section on H&V so that we all can share in this free money.

Sounds good in theory but the algorithm's gonna get you*...

*HTJI

[ASHTONVILLA]

Consolidation year unless everything clicks straight off. Too many players to fit in in attack, unfit players with no pre season and a midfield that is not good enough for the likely system we will play. Buy a couple of good midfielders and think we will finish somewhere between 6th and 10th. Don't and looking at 9th-12th.

 Would imagine that Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Leicester, Spurs will all finish ahead of us.  Arsenal have improved and Spurs are still better than us. Leeds, Everton, West Ham, and us will be vying for 8th place and there are always a couple of teams that do better than expected in the mix.

Hoping the new signings all hit the ground running and we get into Europe, but wouldn't be betting on it.

[FrankyH]

I'm pretty sure we were third favourites to go down before the season started last summer. Concerned me along the lines of "bookies don't get it wrong". I understand the concept of the odds being automatically changed depending on who's lumping on but it begs the question of who is betting on Brighton to finish top 4?

I would imagine there are some ludicrously optimistic Brighton fans. Either a decent number of them or a small number with lots of money.

I lumped a tenner on us to win the league 200/1, I know . Brighton were 150/1 !!!

[sickbeggar]

Well the season is about to start, but plenty of players still to come in or leave all over the place. Lets give it a shot.

Chelsea - Lukaku will do it for them. Same story last night. lots of chances, no goals
Man U - bought well I think. Only doubt is a real top class striker
Man City - Could win it if Kane signs. Otherwise I think they'll fall back slightly even with ratboy
Liverpool - People say they'll be back now without the injuries. Not convinced
Arsenal - Make or break season for Arteta. Prediction based on more coming in. if not, few places down
Leicester - Seems to be buying defenders. Not sure Vardy has much left
Spurs - Kane the big doubt. staying or going I think they'll stand still.
Leeds - Had leeds falling away a bit originally after last season but not so sure
Aston Villa - think we'll be worse than last season with ratboy, but better than last season without him.
West Ham - They beat us twice last season. I thought they were complete  arse both times. Baffling.
Everton - See a george graham at spurs thing going on there
Wolves - midtable written all over them
Brentford - this season's surprise package
Newcastle - Been hoping Nan's hair's luck will run out but I can't see it.
Brighton-  The next 6 teams are pretty interchangeable but will be best of the cannon fodder
Southampton - Lost guaranteed goals in Ings and players like Bertrand. Transitional season at best
Watford -  Will survive I think, based on very little
Burnley - Just about survived last season. Luck will run out. Spent F.A.
Crystal Palace - Too many changes, not enough spent.
Norwich - Look this seasons whipping boys for me

[cdbearsfan]

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Leeds
Arsenal
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
THE VILLA
Wolves
Brighton
Burnley
Everton
Crystal Palace
Newcastle
Brentford
Watford
Southampton
Norwich

[Risso]

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Leeds
Arsenal
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
THE VILLA
Wolves
Brighton
Burnley
Everton
Crystal Palace
Newcastle
Brentford
Watford
Southampton
Norwich

What the.....

Leeds 5th? If we finish behind all of Leeds, Arsenal and Spurs, I think that will be a failure of a season.

[Monty]

If we finish behind Leeds, Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester and West Ham it's a failure.

[PaulWinch again]

Agree it’ll mean we haven’t finished the window well and Dean hasn’t been able to gel the team. I expect us to finish 7th or 8th, but we still need a couple of players.

[cdbearsfan]

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Leeds
Arsenal
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
THE VILLA
Wolves
Brighton
Burnley
Everton
Crystal Palace
Newcastle
Brentford
Watford
Southampton
Norwich

What the.....

Leeds 5th? If we finish behind all of Leeds, Arsenal and Spurs, I think that will be a failure of a season.

I'm basing it largely on what I don't want to happen. Doesn't seem impossible that Leeds could continue to improve. Just to piss me off.

There's still plenty to be decided but thought would join in seeing as sickbeggar had started it. Tottenham could easily move up or down depending on whether they keep Kane. I've hedged my bets with their position.

I can't decide with us. We were pretty much Champions League standard with Kaminski in the team and relegation fodder without him. So if we have really replaced him, we can challenge much higher than I've predicted. If we haven't, it could be a disappointing season.

We might have a better idea of where things stand by the end of the transfer window. There are no certainties at this stage. Except for Norwich going down.

[edgysatsuma89]

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Leeds
Arsenal
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
THE VILLA
Wolves
Brighton
Burnley
Everton
Crystal Palace
Newcastle
Brentford
Watford
Southampton
Norwich

The only one I completely disagree with is West Ham. What makes you think they'll be above us? I fancy last season to be a bit of an anomaly. Have they signed anyone to replace Lingard's contribution? I don't see Leeds 5th but I think they'll be top half.

[Risso]

I'm going with


Chelsea
Liverpool
Man U
Aston Villa
Man City
Arsenal
Leicester
Spurs
Leeds
Wolves
Everton
West Ham
Brighton
Burnley
Palace
Newcastle
Southampton
Brentford
Norwich
Watford