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Offline aj2k77

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #315 on: October 21, 2022, 04:53:07 PM »
Is it another one where his previous level has been so far below what he's being asked to do that giving him the options of £30m+ players are so far out of his comfort zone and expertise that he doesn't know what he's looking for?

I just get the feeling that appointing so many people with experience so far below where we operate is never going to end well. Coaches from Cowdenbeath, Sporting Directors from Copenhagen, Managers from Scotland and yet we are looking to finish top 10? Doesn't add up to me.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #316 on: October 21, 2022, 05:19:46 PM »
Fair point.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #317 on: October 21, 2022, 05:22:12 PM »
I'd bin him ASAP personally. Think he's found zero bargains, zero young players ready to challenge the squad etc. Utter uselessness.

so a brilliant French international on a free isn't all of those things? Emi Martinez, Diego Carlos and Digne in today's market under 30m is very decent. Cash for 16m, Chambers free, Coutinho on loan then under 20m.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #318 on: October 21, 2022, 10:56:57 PM »
Digne and Carlos are pushing 30, and we paid a lot, good players, but not bargains. Digne was almost exclusively Gerrard. Chambers was a decent pick up. Emi we had tracked for a while and was a good signing. Coutinho was zero to do with Lange and i would imagine he'll happily tell you that. Kamara has promise, so I'll give you that one. 18 months ago I reckon we'd have sold a lot of our players at profit, now, not a chance.

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« Reply #319 on: October 22, 2022, 09:37:36 AM »
Digne and Carlos are pushing 30, and we paid a lot, good players, but not bargains. Digne was almost exclusively Gerrard. Chambers was a decent pick up. Emi we had tracked for a while and was a good signing. Coutinho was zero to do with Lange and i would imagine he'll happily tell you that. Kamara has promise, so I'll give you that one. 18 months ago I reckon we'd have sold a lot of our players at profit, now, not a chance.

Was it not Gerrard who wanted Kamara and he personally went to his home to get the deal over the line?

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« Reply #320 on: October 22, 2022, 10:22:33 AM »
Digne and Carlos are pushing 30, and we paid a lot, good players, but not bargains. Digne was almost exclusively Gerrard. Chambers was a decent pick up. Emi we had tracked for a while and was a good signing. Coutinho was zero to do with Lange and i would imagine he'll happily tell you that. Kamara has promise, so I'll give you that one. 18 months ago I reckon we'd have sold a lot of our players at profit, now, not a chance.

Was it not Gerrard who wanted Kamara and he personally went to his home to get the deal over the line?


Gerrard certainly went to his home as Kamara himself has said that is what made him chose Villa.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #321 on: December 19, 2022, 10:25:19 AM »
Not sure I'd put an awful lot of weight on it as a source, but Football Insider reckons Lange is "fighting for his job", and that NSWE haven't been that impressed.

Not going to link to the article because, if truth be told, if you were to print it out, it wouldn't be worth the paper it's printed on - and it's worth even less in electronic form.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #322 on: December 19, 2022, 10:28:59 AM »
Well quite.

I think Lange has done ok for us if truth be told.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #323 on: December 19, 2022, 10:48:35 AM »
Let's not forget that he has a hand in contract negations as well as transfers.  To get Luiz and Martinez signed up long term was good but to also get Grealish to sign a contract that earned us £100m is also pretty amazing.

Although we don't know how much of this Lange has a direct involvement with.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #324 on: December 19, 2022, 10:50:14 AM »
I don't know how Lange is pronounced but I like to think it is /ˈlæŋəɹ/, which is a homophone of "langer", which, I believe, is slang for 'cock' in Ireland.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #325 on: December 19, 2022, 11:24:54 AM »
Yes, it's 'cock' in Cork, and to get "langered" is to get sloshed.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #326 on: December 19, 2022, 01:26:06 PM »
I don't know how Lange is pronounced but I like to think it is /ˈlæŋəɹ/, which is a homophone of "langer", which, I believe, is slang for 'cock' in Ireland.

The g is hard and the e is a bit of a glötal stop so Lang-e.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #327 on: January 09, 2023, 02:22:53 AM »
Absolutely amazed this bloke isn't coming under more scrutiny tbh.

We've spent a fortune since he's been here and, apart from Kamara which was all Gerrard, he's unearthed fuck all that I couldn't.  Olsen, Augustinsson, Traore, Sanson, Dendonker, Chambers, Digne, Bednerek, Ings, Bailey must mostly all be his recommendations.  Replacing the aggregate has become more like wasting the Grealish money.

 
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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #328 on: January 09, 2023, 06:14:33 AM »
Yes it is a full team of shit.

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Re: Johan Lange - appointed
« Reply #329 on: January 09, 2023, 06:25:00 AM »
Every single team that winds up firing a manager has wasted money on players. This isn’t an Aston Villa thing. We have our fair share of players that we spent good money that we will sell for less than we paid. But every club has players that haven’t worked out. Lange didn’t buy players on his own. Dean Smith and Gerrard would have had a say. That said there is no doubt he will be judged on who he brings in for Emery. He will need to play his role in getting that right.

 


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