West Ham United vs Aston Villa STAYING UP!!!! - Post Match Thread

[Skerra]

From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!

[Bobby Boy]

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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.

 

I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?

There's a piece by Tom Dutton on the Evening Standard's website today. Very speculative though..

[amfy]

From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!

I hope they win a huge amount of money, then maybe the powers that be will have a serious re-think about whether technology actually solves everything or just completely wrecks the game for no good reason.

It isn’t going to affect our position because their claim isn’t against us & they definitely aren’t going to open the can of worms of swapping relegation places.

[Risso]

It's absolute bobbins.  Might as well sue their own players for conceding too many goals, or the Chinese government for Covid 19 which caused the lockdown.

[Lastfootstamper]

I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.

[Lastfootstamper]

Oh, and they were definitely on about us, not Hawkeye. Tabloid radio filler.

[Holte132]

From the Daily Telegraph:

Bournemouth have not ruled out exploring a compensation claim over the Hawk-Eye mistake that arguably cost them their Premier League status, and will hold crunch talks later this week to decide manager Eddie Howe’s future.

Although no lawyers have been instructed at this stage, the possible comparison with the Carlos Tevez affair in 2006, which ended with Sheffield United receiving almost £20 million in compensation following their relegation, has been made.

Hawk-Eye publicly apologised when Sheffield United’s ‘goal’ in their 0-0 draw against Aston Villa in June was ruled out after the seven stadium cameras were effectively blocked by the goalkeeper, defender and goalpost, meaning that referee Michael Oliver did not receive notification that the ball had crossed the line.

Aston Villa’s point from that game ultimately proved critical. Had the goal stood and all other results remained the same, Bournemouth would have stayed up on goals difference and Aston Villa would have been relegated.

Sports lawyer Nick De Marco QC, of Blackstone Chambers, told Telegraph Sport that any club finishing a point below Villa in the relegation fight could have a case for compensation for lost revenue. “Such a claim might be unprecedented, but, depending on all the circumstances, it could be a good claim,” he said.

De Marco suggested that a claim could be made “against the Premier League, the providers of the technology, or both”. The financial importance of being in the top flight was evident in Bournemouth's most recent accounts, for 2018-19, where £115.6 million of its £131m income came directly from the Premier League.

Although there is no suggestion that the positions can now be reversed and no talks have yet been held with lawyers, Bournemouth have not ruled out taking advice on whether they would have a legitimate case for compensation.

A mistake has been acknowledged but it could also be argued that Aston Villa would have approached the rest of the Sheffield United game - and indeed their final fixture of the season at West Ham United, where they drew 1-1 - rather differently if the circumstances had changed.

[exigo]

If Hawkeye has to dish out £20m for every mistake this season, it'll bankrupt them. I'm all for it.

[cdbearsfan]

Hawkeye have only made one mistake, haven't they?

[simboy]

From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!

I hope they win a huge amount of money, then maybe the powers that be will have a serious re-think about whether technology actually solves everything or just completely wrecks the game for no good reason.

It isn’t going to affect our position because their claim isn’t against us & they definitely aren’t going to open the can of worms of swapping relegation places.

The goal line technology is a simple line decision and generally works well. Its avoids all the silliness with such as the Lampard goal against Germany. There was a mistake [ i think that has been admitted] but, so what? Had it been the 98th minute, last kick of the game, ok, fair enough. But 42 minutes in?  doubt they will get very far.

As for VAR. It's the interpretation not the technology that's at fault in the main. "Clear and obvious" means something different for particular teams and officials. It is open to bias, and bloody hell have we seen some biased decisions.   


 

[avfcpg]

I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah. 

[danno]

If they were successful, could we sue Phil Dowd?

[Sexual Ealing]

I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah. 

Yep. I guess it's true that the big clubs always get the decisions. Wink.

[Risso]

We decided it would be fairer to let another team walk the ball in, so sportingly did it against Man City, six times in a row.

[avfcpg]

I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah. 

Yep. I guess it's true that the big clubs always get the decisions. Wink.

Ha..that'll be my next response to them !! Honestly, I live here and a lot are in meltdown over it...