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Offline David_Nab

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #135 on: June 27, 2020, 06:02:48 PM »
Just look how Norwich are playing against Man U. There is some urgency to their play. Compare that to us.

That is what worries me about us, and I was just watching this game and thinking exactly the same thing.

We just look totally unmotivated and totally free of spark and energy, just so lethargic.

If i was a supporter of another team, I would want us down.

Which is why I would support a change of manager now as someone else might get something from them where as I am 100% Smith can't get more from them.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #136 on: June 27, 2020, 06:10:39 PM »
Newcastle and Sheff Utd should have been games we approached full of blood and thunder, giving everything for a win. Those two games would get you half way to staying up. Instead we looked prepared to settle for a 0-0 in both of them and live to fight another day, the tempo was slow, the urgency missing and the game plans very defensive.

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #137 on: June 27, 2020, 06:16:03 PM »
So disappointing especially 2nd half as we were doing ok 1st half.
Smith has a point in fatigue and too many matches in short space of time.
Liked how we played first half
Didn't like second.
Deano spot on that lacked quality in final third.


Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #138 on: June 27, 2020, 06:19:42 PM »
Just look how Norwich are playing against Man U. There is some urgency to their play. Compare that to us. We are the worst team in the division.

League positions don’t lie, whatever happens in cup performances. Norwich are on 21 points, they are the worst side in the division

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #139 on: June 27, 2020, 06:20:38 PM »
So disappointing especially 2nd half as we were doing ok 1st half.
Smith has a point in fatigue and too many matches in short space of time.
Liked how we played first half
Didn't like second.
Deano spot on that lacked quality in final third.

Smith does have a point but it’s the same for other teams too. He is spot on regarding the last third but he does nothing to address it game on game. The all fart no shit in opportunities will be our undoing as be huff and puff yet create little. 

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #140 on: June 27, 2020, 06:28:47 PM »
No intensity, no plan B, C, D or E, no pace, no goal threat, too many sideways passes, too reliant on Grealish, too many poor signings. We are where we were 4 years ago but at least we now have rich owners, how long will they stick around... i would love to watch a game with them. At the moment we are on our way down, something needs to be changed as the current plan does not work, do we change the coaches.... DS, RoK and JT seem out of their depth or Suso and the scouting system... certainly more questions than answers, besides that all is good.

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #141 on: June 27, 2020, 06:29:43 PM »
I was hoping with two up front, we would be loads better and at least a threat.

I was wrong on both

Smith neglected to put a single wide player out there for them!

After caving to the pressure to abandon his dreadful 4-3-3.. He literally stuck 3 slow-footed CMs behind the forwards and jack.

Dean Smith out, tonight. I’d rather have Neil Warnock lay into this bunch for the next three weeks than watch this dross and go down without a whimper.

Geez, everybody wanted both wingers out of the team and called for the diamond. I've no idea why, we already have no pace so putting four, slow central midfielders into the team was hardly likely to help. Smith has bowed to pressure to play two up front, the team won't have trained in that formation at all. Managers do start to look desperate when they start throwing reactive formations together.

Lots of nonsense about Jack not caring too - it's just easy mud to throw. He's doing loads of running but wasting energy collecting the ball off our defenders and the rest of the team just give him slow possession from a standing start. What's he meant to do?

We just aren't good enough throughout the entire side. We've been poor defensively all season but teams worked out how to nullify our attacking threat (it's not hard - just squeeze Grealish out of the game) since the turn of the year. Two goals in our last six games (both from set pieces) is the result. It needs a miracle turnaround in form now. Ain't happening is it?

Spot on.

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #142 on: June 27, 2020, 06:30:55 PM »
The quality isn't there. We try, we close, we run about, we put the miles in, but there just isn't that turn of pace, the quality up front or in midfield with delivery.

It's nothing to do with intangible clichéd stuff like bottle and the like. Its about a side like Wolves having the quality of organisation to make it very difficult to find space and deny opportunities. Its about Johnny making a run that isn't picked up and when the ball does fall, for realistically the only chance of the game of note, and having the quality to take it.

We are reliant on Hourihane, a player who was nicknamed Hologram last season. He lacks pace and a righf foot.
Nakamba, lacks composure and a range of passing. AEG and Tezuguet, Taylor, Elmo, Konsa, House, Samatta, Wesley, Nyland, Davis they're all not good enough for this level.

Coaching, systems, it really doesn't matter when you aren't good enough. We are a Championship squad, with a sprinkling of good players; Heaton, Mings, McGinn, Luiz, Grealish. Sadly we will likely only keep one of those for next season, Heaton and maybe Luiz.

Recruitment has been poor and now confidence is completely evaporated. But what system and selection can anybody put out and say with confidence that yes, that is a side who will dominate games in this league. I can't and to that end Smith has been left badly exposed.

I'm disappointed I won't get to see Grealish live again in a Villa shirt.

And this as well .   

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #143 on: June 27, 2020, 06:38:13 PM »
Just look how Norwich are playing against Man U. There is some urgency to their play. Compare that to us.

That is what worries me about us, and I was just watching this game and thinking exactly the same thing.

We just look totally unmotivated and totally free of spark and energy, just so lethargic.

If i was a supporter of another team, I would want us down.

The last sentence is what I’ve been saying also, and just how it was last time we went down. Nobody will give a fuck if we went down. To all other fans, currently invested in how we do or otherwise, we are pathetic to watch. Addition by subtraction.

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #144 on: June 27, 2020, 07:15:24 PM »
I noticed that O'Kelly was with a note pad wondering what tactics to put forward and discussing with Smith .
JT was just lurking in back ground.
I'm not sure what this O'Kelly credentials are at high level.  As well as this JT is inexperienced in coaching .
Smith would have done well to have some experience hand in there with him.
Someone like Chris Hughton would have done a good job as a number 2 as a supporting coach getting team organised along with O'Kelly and JT .



Hughton is a far better manager than Smith and has done well in the Prem with small budget clubs. No way would he play second fiddle to a less experienced and inferior manager like Smith.

Offline robbo1874

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #145 on: June 27, 2020, 07:38:56 PM »
I think this is probably the most depressing post-match thread I’ve read all season. Mainly because there are so many widely differing opinions as to what the problem is. Usually it’s just one or two things, but when you read through it all, pretty much every aspect of what could be wrong has been mentioned. I don’t see any quick fixes for us.

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #146 on: June 27, 2020, 08:31:14 PM »
Back to the gypsy curse. We’ve been a poison chalice on and off the pitch since MON, with a few temporary bright patches.

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #147 on: June 27, 2020, 08:39:05 PM »
Actually it’s more like final destination. We cheated fate when we were rescued from the jaws of collapse. Now fate is coming for us with a host of non-scoring strikers, battered mars bars materialising in SJM’s cupboards and the world’s second and third least astute billionaires.

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #148 on: June 27, 2020, 09:27:25 PM »
Actually it’s more like final destination. We cheated fate when we were rescued from the jaws of collapse. Now fate is coming for us with a host of non-scoring strikers, battered mars bars materialising in SJM’s cupboards and the world’s second and third least astute billionaires.
I'm intrigued now. Who's the world's first least astute billionaire?

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Aston Villa v Wolves Post Match Thread.
« Reply #149 on: June 27, 2020, 09:28:31 PM »
There's no curse. Look at the calibre of managers we've employed. We've even had scouts the other side of the world on beaches doing fuck all. The infrastructure was decimated and middling yes men were left to carry the can and take the flak for everything.

We haven't hired a good manager in donkeys years.

 


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