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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8235 on: September 28, 2020, 03:32:14 PM »
There are 3 categories - 1. The one the manager wanted and never got (Muzzy Izzet, McCarthy, Juninho!) 2. The one the press are convinced you are going to sign every window for eternity (Defoe, Robbie Keane, Sturridge) and 3. The one tentatively linked once, and then speculated by fans forever more (Belhanda, Kiyotake, Rashica, Benrahma)


Blimey Muzzy Izzet. I remember  Gregory desperate to sign him for about 12m and he left two months later. Izzet was a decent player but he moved to SHA on a free a year later and got injured on his debut and had to retire so bullet dodged there.

Benni McCarthy did well for Blackburn for 18 months and then lost interest. Pretty sure West Ham signed him and his BMI was higher than mine at the time!

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https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/13/2069451/west-ham-united-order-benni-mccarthy-to-lose-weight-or-face
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8236 on: September 28, 2020, 03:37:43 PM »
Imagine if all employers took that stance :(

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8237 on: September 28, 2020, 03:39:58 PM »
I would say about a 50% success. Not too bad. And we generally got rid of the flops fairly painlessly.

We most certainly did not get rid of them painlessly. When Sir Graham came back we had about £100k a week sitting in the stand virtually on strike.

Hadji and Kachoul wasn't it? Kachoul started off o.k with nice assist for Vassell v Man. United but then quickly fell out of favour. Surprised how little impact Hadji made as he was a good player for Coventry and was pretty excited when we swopped Joachim for him but bar a header v Southampton can't remember him playing or doing anything else. Was still here in early part of O'Leary era but again barely used.

And Bosko of course.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8238 on: September 28, 2020, 03:43:42 PM »
I would say about a 50% success. Not too bad. And we generally got rid of the flops fairly painlessly.

We most certainly did not get rid of them painlessly. When Sir Graham came back we had about £100k a week sitting in the stand virtually on strike.

Hadji and Kachoul wasn't it? Kachoul started off o.k with nice assist for Vassell v Man. United but then quickly fell out of favour. Surprised how little impact Hadji made as he was a good player for Coventry and was pretty excited when we swopped Joachim for him but bar a header v Southampton can't remember him playing or doing anything else. Was still here in early part of O'Leary era but again barely used.

And Bosko of course.

Plus Alpay, Ginola and Schmeichel.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8239 on: September 28, 2020, 03:49:31 PM »
I would say about a 50% success. Not too bad. And we generally got rid of the flops fairly painlessly.

We most certainly did not get rid of them painlessly. When Sir Graham came back we had about £100k a week sitting in the stand virtually on strike.

Hadji and Kachoul wasn't it? Kachoul started off o.k with nice assist for Vassell v Man. United but then quickly fell out of favour. Surprised how little impact Hadji made as he was a good player for Coventry and was pretty excited when we swopped Joachim for him but bar a header v Southampton can't remember him playing or doing anything else. Was still here in early part of O'Leary era but again barely used.

And Bosko of course.

Plus Alpay, Ginola and Schmeichel.

Schmeichel was still number one at that point. Didn't he have some clause in his deal he always had to play when fit and SGT wanted to have a look at Enckleman once we were just playing out the season so he just walked out. Did fine for Man. City in his final season.

Yeah Ginola and Gregory fell out pretty much from the off so surprised he was still here 18 months on. Alpay was one of best defenders at 2002 world cup and came back and wanted a move and then sulked when he didn't get it and we were playing Staunton ahead of him. Ronny Johnsen was a good pick up on a free in fairness, good when fit.

Just come to mind but didn't we play the first SHA game with about 7 defenders in the team?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8240 on: September 28, 2020, 03:49:55 PM »
I would say about a 50% success. Not too bad. And we generally got rid of the flops fairly painlessly.

We most certainly did not get rid of them painlessly. When Sir Graham came back we had about £100k a week sitting in the stand virtually on strike.

Hadji and Kachoul wasn't it? Kachoul started off o.k with nice assist for Vassell v Man. United but then quickly fell out of favour. Surprised how little impact Hadji made as he was a good player for Coventry and was pretty excited when we swopped Joachim for him but bar a header v Southampton can't remember him playing or doing anything else. Was still here in early part of O'Leary era but again barely used.

And Bosko of course.

Ginola is the biggest disappointment of the lot. He was absolutely superb for both Newcastle and Spurs but a complete flop for us.

Was excited about Hadji too, who looked areal player for Coventry. Didn't we 'gazump' Ipswich for Kachloul?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8241 on: September 28, 2020, 03:52:39 PM »
Ginola was past his best - as (clearly) was Schmichael

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8242 on: September 28, 2020, 03:57:12 PM »
We did gazump Ipswich for Kachloul. My favourite bit of H&V trivia is that former (?) poster Paul The Weatherman sold Hassan a piano (or maybe it was a joke).

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8243 on: September 28, 2020, 04:04:57 PM »
We did gazump Ipswich for Kachloul. My favourite bit of H&V trivia is that former (?) poster Paul The Weatherman sold Hassan a piano (or maybe it was a joke).

*rushes off to the "whatever happened to..." thread in a distant and forbidden land....

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8244 on: September 28, 2020, 04:09:01 PM »
Alpay had a good first season, was injured for most of 2001-02 then had a miraculous recovery in time for the World Cup. He did well there, then when he came back decided he was too good for us.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8245 on: September 28, 2020, 04:15:55 PM »
Just got to remember any signing is a risk.
Just cannot guarantee a player at one club would be better at their next club.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8246 on: September 28, 2020, 04:19:45 PM »
Reading Chelski forums they seem to agree RLC is not the player he was since his injury and that he shouldn’t be anywhere near their team at the moment.  They clearly think he has talent but they are now losing faith so a Bid to take him off their hands might just work 

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8247 on: September 28, 2020, 04:24:02 PM »
Reading Chelski forums they seem to agree RLC is not the player he was since his injury and that he shouldn’t be anywhere near their team at the moment.  They clearly think he has talent but they are now losing faith so a Bid to take him off their hands might just work

His injury is a bit of a rabbit hole in itself. I've seen it mentioned that he has a pre-existing back problem that needs careful managing and means he has to be rested. If that's the case (and I can't see it confirmed officially anywhere) then steer well clear. #RichardsMK11

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8248 on: September 28, 2020, 04:25:41 PM »
Alpay had a good first season, was injured for most of 2001-02 then had a miraculous recovery in time for the World Cup. He did well there, then when he came back decided he was too good for us.

Yeah pretty much. He stayed around for start of O'Leary season, scored and shushed the fans, got booed for it then had a scrap against Beckham playing for Turkey and we cancelled his contract.

One thing I would say is him and Mellberg were like rocks for first 3 months of 01/02 season when we were top going into November so that's a what if for me given he got injured a few weeks later and Staunton playing weekly was a clear downgrade from then on.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8249 on: September 28, 2020, 04:27:00 PM »
Reading Chelski forums they seem to agree RLC is not the player he was since his injury and that he shouldn’t be anywhere near their team at the moment.  They clearly think he has talent but they are now losing faith so a Bid to take him off their hands might just work

His injury is a bit of a rabbit hole in itself. I've seen it mentioned that he has a pre-existing back problem that needs careful managing and means he has to be rested. If that's the case (and I can't see it confirmed officially anywhere) then steer well clear. #RichardsMK11

We just want to take him on loan don't we? Just make sure Chelsea don't screw us over with the terms like Spurs did with the jenas deal. Got season ending injury in the November of that season and we still had to pay all his wages for rest of the season.

 


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