Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Goldie.7]

4:15, 4:53 and 6:24 were the only stand out goals in that entire video. The rest were tap-ins.

We could have done with someone tapping in a few goals for us last season.

We don't really fizz the ball in like a lot of his goals though. We mainly cut back the ball and cross it in. Only time off the top of my head was Guilbert vs Leicester.

We'll definitely need to change our approach for Watkins to thrive.

I don't think that's necessarily fair - when we did cross what was missing was anyone to finish them off half of the time.

I somewhat agree. Wesley was notorious for never being where he should have been.

[Proposition Joe]

If you'd asked me 6 months ago who Ollie Watkins was, I'd have had a guess that he was an England cricketer.

But having watched that video, I would say the following:
- He seems genuinely two-footed, and also as happy to finish with his head as with his feet.
- We probably will need to find a different way of playing to get the most out of him. He might not be best suited to having his back to goal watching Mings' hoofs go sailing by, nor our usually very slow and ponderous attacking play. We definitely need more players that can keep up with him.

[Dave]

Really? We have zero pacy wingers. Half those goals will be instantly chalked off in this league due to a higher standard of defending.

Fine, we'll take half of his 25 goals from last season then. 13 will be a perfectly decent return.

[AV82EC]

Good signing....onto the next one please.

[ozzjim]

Get the right winger and support striker around him, he will score a lot. His movement will do half the work for him, and a bit like Vardy, his work rate will do the rest.

[Goldie.7]

Really? We have zero pacy wingers. Half those goals will be instantly chalked off in this league due to a higher standard of defending.

Fine, we'll take half of his 25 goals from last season then. 13 will be a perfectly decent return.

Seeing how Jarrod Bowen really struggled making the step up, I would take 8.

[Lescottstweets]

I don't really care about the price. I'm excited.

That's exactly what we need.

Really? We have zero pacy wingers. Half those goals will be instantly chalked off in this league due to a higher standard of defending.

I mean look at that second goal. We would crucify our defence if that was us.

4:15, 4:53 and 6:24 were the only stand out goals in that entire video. The rest were tap-ins.

Best not to watch those videos as the Championship is muck. If he's any good he'll be able to adapt to a league with defenders and hopefully that's what Smith has staked his job on.. If he bought him on the strength of 20 goals in the championship then McCormack is still available on a free as cheap back-up

Yeah, you're right.  There's no point buying anyone from below the Premier League as all other football is shit.  Let's go and get Andy Carroll and Jack Wilshere, that should see us winning the League as they've only ever played in the top flight so they must be brilliant.

The guy knows how to put crosses away and looks a very good header of the ball, only issue is we need to put decent crosses into him in the first place.

[enigma]

Really? We have zero pacy wingers. Half those goals will be instantly chalked off in this league due to a higher standard of defending.

Fine, we'll take half of his 25 goals from last season then. 13 will be a perfectly decent return.

Seeing how Jarrod Bowen really struggled making the step up, I would take 8.

Bowen did really well though? One of their stand out players. Besides, he's a winger. Not really expected to score a hatful.

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If Bellingham went for £25m, Watkins, was always going to cost more.

[john e]

Really? We have zero pacy wingers. Half those goals will be instantly chalked off in this league due to a higher standard of defending.

Fine, we'll take half of his 25 goals from last season then. 13 will be a perfectly decent return.

Seeing how Jarrod Bowen really struggled making the step up, I would take 8.

I’m taking no less than 32 goals

(all from open play obvs)

[LeeB]

If Bellingham went for £25m, Watkins, was always going to cost more.

Time for Brentford to retire the shirt.

[chrisw1]

If Bellingham went for £25m, Watkins, was always going to cost more.

I don't think there's any correlation.  I doubt there will be many clubs spending really big mnoney this window and I think Brentford are very lucky we were absolutely desperate.

[SamTheMouse]

At least he knows how to head the ball, which is more than can be said for Wesley.

Anyway, he clearly loves getting into scoring positions, which is an art in itself. He'll enjoy playing alongside Jack.

[SaddVillan]

Hoping that the deal for Watkins goes through tomorrow.

No doubt some will complain about the price and £28m might seem high.

But:

Tammy Abraham scored 26 goals in 40 games for us when we got promoted. How much would we have been prepared to pay for him last summer if he'd been available - £25m, £30m?

Watkins scored 26 in 50 for Brentford. So you might say that Abraham has a better goals per game record.

However:
Abraham got 6 pens, so 20 in 40 from open play. An average of 1 in 2

Watkins no pens at all. 26 from 50 in open play  - just over 1 in 2, marginally better than Tammy.

£28m seems reasonable, all things considered.

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If Bellingham went for £25m, Watkins, was always going to cost more.

I don't think there's any correlation.  I doubt there will be many clubs spending really big mnoney this window and I think Brentford are very lucky we were absolutely desperate.

Disagree. It's a market. A good young Championship player went for £25m, why would a better one cost less?