Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[sickbeggar]

King's okay apart the Manu hero worship cringe.. He's like Wilson. decent price, but you'd want someone else potentially more prolific. Martinez i like compared to Romero, but yeah not exactly experienced before this season. That said, a lot of arsenal fans prefer him to Leno

[Lastfootstamper]

We already have a player of a calibre way in excess of players I'd be happy to see us bring in, but for whatever reason they don't seem to want to play with him.

[AV82EC]

It is a bit strange that the owners haven't seemingly been pushing for a signing to signal intent.

I don't mind the idea of owners who are grown-ups who view us as an investment, and are happy to see us develop (relatively) organically rather than a vanity project on steroids. I'd rather not be able to detect an owner's imprint on any signings, they should be entirely the choice of the manager. But that, of course, relies on there actually being signings.

I think the signings bit is what they employ Lange for and expect him to do the business with support from Purslow and input from Smith and Co.

[hilts_coolerking]

I was having a look at Bournemouth and Arsenal forums about King and Martinez respectively.  The Arsenal fans rate Martinez but Bournemouth are a bit more equivocal about King.  Talented but inconsistent and often on the treatment table they say.  Still, he's hit double figures in the PL twice so he does at least know where the goal is.

The question I have with Martinez is that if we spend, for sake of argument £15-20M on him then does he become our number one, even when Heaton is fit?  I can't se why he'd trade being no 2 at Arsenal for being no 2 here.  And I can't imagine why we'd pay that much for a back up keeper.  If so, what does Heaton do?  he won't want to be no 2 either.

[john e]

I did confirm our Martinez interest a few weeks ago. Key to this is Raya

Is this Martinez guy any good? He's 28 and has played the grand total of 70 league games in his career to date. Did his very best to keep us in the league in that Arsenal game with his efforts for that Davis chance. Based on his career to date the reported price seems ridiculous, only saving grace is that Arsenal keepers tend to do well elsewhere like Fabianski and Szcezny

The fact we are linked with a string of goalkeepers suggest all is very much not well with Heaton and unfortunately little faith in Steer, Nyland or Kalinic. Steer didn't put a foot wrong that I recall in the championship for us so not sure I understand the logic there.

Was excellent for them in the FA cup and community shield the other week. Not just makes good saves but has a real presence in six yard box and claims plenty of crosses.

Guess the key is does he start the Fulham game for them on Saturday. If he dosen't he'll push to  leave.

Arsenal fans seem to love him on Twitter
Always a good sign

[enigma]

All this talk of FFP, I thought it had been relaxed this year due to covid?

[john e]

We already have a player of a calibre way in excess of players I'd be happy to see us bring in, but for whatever reason they don't seem to want to play with him.

Who are you thinking of

[Steve67]

Josh King.  Is he a winger who can play down the middle a bit or a winger, winger?  Is he any good?

[eamonn]

Can we leave Brentford and Bournemouth alone and cast our net a bit further?

[SoccerHQ]

Hmm, wait and see about this one, its not the kind of signing I'd have expected from the new recruitment fella. I dont remember him being any better than what we have.

It's pretty clear DS is doing the signings this summer with all the serious links and Matty Cash. Think we'll see more of Lange's influence in January and next summer. I reckon currently he's doing a review of our whole football set up for the owners so that's the focus.

[sickbeggar]

I was having a look at Bournemouth and Arsenal forums about King and Martinez respectively.  The Arsenal fans rate Martinez but Bournemouth are a bit more equivocal about King.  Talented but inconsistent and often on the treatment table they say.  Still, he's hit double figures in the PL twice so he does at least know where the goal is.

The question I have with Martinez is that if we spend, for sake of argument £15-20M on him then does he become our number one, even when Heaton is fit?  I can't se why he'd trade being no 2 at Arsenal for being no 2 here.  And I can't imagine why we'd pay that much for a back up keeper.  If so, what does Heaton do?  he won't want to be no 2 either.

Only my opinion but i'd rate  Martinez  far above Heaton. If he came for 20m he's No.1

[SoccerHQ]

I was having a look at Bournemouth and Arsenal forums about King and Martinez respectively.  The Arsenal fans rate Martinez but Bournemouth are a bit more equivocal about King.  Talented but inconsistent and often on the treatment table they say.  Still, he's hit double figures in the PL twice so he does at least know where the goal is.

The question I have with Martinez is that if we spend, for sake of argument £15-20M on him then does he become our number one, even when Heaton is fit?  I can't se why he'd trade being no 2 at Arsenal for being no 2 here.  And I can't imagine why we'd pay that much for a back up keeper.  If so, what does Heaton do?  he won't want to be no 2 either.

Heaton won't be fit until middle of October so Martinez will come in and start our first 4-5 games if he signed next week. And if he takes his chance like he did at Arsenal he'll be our number one all season.

Worth remembering Heaton got injured at Burnley and then spent six months warming the bench behind Joe Hart so not like he'd throw a hissy fit at having to bide his time, I imagine he's a good professional around the training ground so he'll work, play in the cups and wait for another chance like he got at Burnley.

[PeterWithe]

Maybe I'm in a bad mood but I'm a bit non-plussed that after staying up by the width of a fanny hair we are looking at players from teams who were actually worse than us. Its very Villa shopping at the relegated clubs.

[Steve67]

Martinez would be coming in as number 1, no question.  Heaton would have a real scrap on his hands trying to get back in.  Exactly as it should be. I wish for the same up front and in midfield.

[john e]

Hmm, wait and see about this one, its not the kind of signing I'd have expected from the new recruitment fella. I dont remember him being any better than what we have.

It's pretty clear DS is doing the signings this summer with all the serious links and Matty Cash. Think we'll see more of Lange's influence in January and next summer. I reckon currently he's doing a review of our whole football set up for the owners so that's the focus.

Hmm, wait and see about this one, its not the kind of signing I'd have expected from the new recruitment fella. I dont remember him being any better than what we have.

It's pretty clear DS is doing the signings this summer with all the serious links and Matty Cash. Think we'll see more of Lange's influence in January and next summer. I reckon currently he's doing a review of our whole football set up for the owners so that's the focus.

Review of the whole club set up

just tell him to read H&V     Sorted