Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Percy McCarthy]

Yep. I don't think we would have got him - Everton are loaded, BUT if shows what you can get for 20m in that age range. 3 years of a top quality player creating chances and assists., pays for himself by keeping you up

I thought we were loaded.

*Shrugs* 20m is not a problem. the wages? But not every talented foreign 29year old is on Real Madrid wages. Anyway judging how everton fans are wetting themselves tonight, they'll probably pay for him in shirt sales by October

Can't say I blame them, really. I remember the excitement when we were linked with Sneijder. Funnily enough, around the same time we were linked with Ancelotti, from what I remember, but that was in the days before top managers started seeing upper-mid table PL clubs as an option.

Having said that, how do off-pitch investments influence FFP? Aren't Everton spending a fortune on a new stadium?

Infrastructure and academy investments don’t count I think.

[brontebilly]

FFP isn't a rumour, its been in place for a good number of years now.

Is it remotely enforceable in this covid era?

[eamonn]

Yes, its Income & Expenditure moreso than assets on the Balance Sheet.

[Ads]

How did Wolves manage it then?

A lot of their players are loans and Mendes valuations.

The price you pay is a top 8 full back in his prime going for buttons, relative to market value.

[VinnieChase84]

I did confirm our Martinez interest a few weeks ago. Key to this is Raya

[Rory]

Infrastructure and academy investments don’t count I think.

Ah okay. Bit daft though, because infrastructure investment leads to greater income, which in turn influences FFP.

[sickbeggar]

Yep. I don't think we would have got him - Everton are loaded, BUT if shows what you can get for 20m in that age range. 3 years of a top quality player creating chances and assists., pays for himself by keeping you up

I thought we were loaded.

*Shrugs* 20m is not a problem. the wages? But not every talented foreign 29year old is on Real Madrid wages. Anyway judging how everton fans are wetting themselves tonight, they'll probably pay for him in shirt sales by October

Can't say I blame them, really. I remember the excitement when we were linked with Sneijder. Funnily enough, around the same time we were linked with Ancelotti, from what I remember, but that was in the days before top managers started seeing upper-mid table PL clubs as an option.

Having said that, how do off-pitch investments influence FFP? Aren't Everton spending a fortune on a new stadium?

Yeah as Paulie said it would be nice to have a signing that the opposition could be bothered to call shit. I'm strictly an amateur on FFP. I do know that Everton's owners don't intend to piss around and are up there with the abramovich's of this world

[kippaxvilla2]

If we are hampered by FFP we didn’t need a new right back and we don’t need a fifth goalkeeper at the club.

[Ian.]

How did Wolves manage it then?

A lot of their players are loans and Mendes valuations.

When Wolves sold Doherty the other day it seemed the only one who lost out was Wolves, but then the replacement was already lined up at a snip, I presume another Mendes player?

[Lastfootstamper]

I don’t believe the FFP stuff.  Wolves made a £57m loss in the championship.  They got done by UEFA but not our own FA.  It doesn’t stack up.  Surely we pay decent wages to Mings, Targett, McGinn, Heaton.  I’m surprised more of our players haven’t been linked with leaving either.

From what I know, there's no FFP in the PL. But there is in the EFL, and there is if you want to compete in Europe. So if you want to do what Everton do and keep blowing hundreds upon hundreds of millions whilst not winning anything or only occasionally qualifying for Europe but not getting relegated, you're free to carry on.

[SoccerHQ]

im glad we're better than buying a 4 times spanish and german league winner and 2 times champions league winner and concentrating on the real quality at brentford

Yeah, given the choice of someone who regularly puts them away against Rotherham and Barnsley or someone just off 14 in 32 starts at Bayern Munich and 29 in 64 at Real Madrid, and who has scored in World Cups, I know which I would plump for.

Wouldn't it be nice for us to do something exciting in the transfer market rather than the usual over priced Championship stuff we buy.

We'll probably pay more for Benhrahma than Everton did for James Rodriguez FFS.

Can't we do something that smells of ambition rather than hoping it is good enough to keep us up for a change?

10 years of this rubbish.

We do desperately a John Carew type signing, someone known around europe and proven in top leagues and also states to other players we actually mean business and are on the up so they might actually want to join us rather than have a think about it for weeks on end.

When we signed him and Ashley Young that January in the end days of Lerner and MON that convinced me we were on the right path and for the next two years we were.

Still waiting for that to happen under this manager and ownership.

[SoccerHQ]

im glad we're better than buying a 4 times spanish and german league winner and 2 times champions league winner and concentrating on the real quality at brentford

Yeah, given the choice of someone who regularly puts them away against Rotherham and Barnsley or someone just off 14 in 32 starts at Bayern Munich and 29 in 64 at Real Madrid, and who has scored in World Cups, I know which I would plump for.

Wouldn't it be nice for us to do something exciting in the transfer market rather than the usual over priced Championship stuff we buy.

We'll probably pay more for Benhrahma than Everton did for James Rodriguez FFS.

Can't we do something that smells of ambition rather than hoping it is good enough to keep us up for a change?

10 years of this rubbish.

I know what you mean, but that deal in particular feels to me like Ancellotti having to justify the reason he was bought to the club, to attract big name players.

How many £20m+ attacking midfielders have they got on their books now?

I'd probably take Sigurdsson if they're letting him go to balance the books.

[PeterWithe]

It is a bit strange that the owners haven't seemingly been pushing for a signing to signal intent.

[Dante Lavelli]

How did Wolves manage it then?

A lot of their players are loans and Mendes valuations.

When Wolves sold Doherty the other day it seemed the only one who lost out was Wolves, but then the replacement was already lined up at a snip, I presume another Mendes player?

Doherty might be a bad example as he’s possibly not with Mendez but is the theory that Spurs paid a lot more than the reported £12m to buy the player i.e. £12m was the transfer fee but a chunk more was going to an agent as Mendez was effectively cashing in some chips?

Is that how this arrangement works / will work?

[SoccerHQ]

Wasn't it said last summer Wesley's agent recommended Engels and Nakamba to us when Suso was negotiating with Bruges?