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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 1067482 times)

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5295 on: September 07, 2020, 01:35:28 PM »
Can’t we just get rid of everyone we don’t want by terminating their contracts? Do exceptional items in the balance sheet count towards FFP? Risso?

We did that with McCormack didn't we last summer? Terminated his playing contract but agreed to pay his salary until he found a new club. Of course the lazy waster couldn't be bothered to play for anyone and so his name also came up on the released list this summer aswell.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5296 on: September 07, 2020, 01:35:54 PM »
The market is certainly starting to come alive, let’s hope we can participate.

Participation is important to mental health.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5297 on: September 07, 2020, 01:36:10 PM »
There is a point where it costs more to terminate than let them sit on their contacts for FFP I think.

Wilson clearly stated villa were in and it was a hard decision so it puts to bed the idea that we weren't really trying for him.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5298 on: September 07, 2020, 01:41:50 PM »
He's dead.

She's not dead.

He said I had the look of a son, with all the love and poison of London.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5299 on: September 07, 2020, 01:45:43 PM »
Can’t we just get rid of everyone we don’t want by terminating their contracts? Do exceptional items in the balance sheet count towards FFP? Risso?
Accounting wise you would recognise the unexpired portion of their value in that accounting period.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5300 on: September 07, 2020, 01:47:33 PM »
Potato Head will play Wilson at full back .....

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5301 on: September 07, 2020, 01:51:45 PM »
Can’t we just get rid of everyone we don’t want by terminating their contracts? Do exceptional items in the balance sheet count towards FFP? Risso?

You'd have the excess amortisation in the P&L, and then the amount that you had to pay them for the unexpired portions of their contracts.  So yes, basically, and it would be enormous.

I do wonder what the various leagues' plans will be with FFP at the moment though, as obviously very single team's income will have taken a big hit.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5302 on: September 07, 2020, 01:52:14 PM »
There is a point where it costs more to terminate than let them sit on their contacts for FFP I think.

Wilson clearly stated villa were in and it was a hard decision so it puts to bed the idea that we weren't really trying for him.

It also suggests one of two things - we may not be competing financially, we’re not selling a particularly compelling vision, or a bit of both. We really need to kick on.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5303 on: September 07, 2020, 01:53:08 PM »
FFP is based on P& L so the Balance Sheet is not relevant except where you are writing down assets on the BS which is then charged to the Profit and Loss account.
I am not an accountant so Risso May explain it better.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5304 on: September 07, 2020, 01:55:20 PM »
There is a point where it costs more to terminate than let them sit on their contacts for FFP I think.

Wilson clearly stated villa were in and it was a hard decision so it puts to bed the idea that we weren't really trying for him.

It also suggests one of two things - we may not be competing financially, we’re not selling a particularly compelling vision, or a bit of both. We really need to kick on.

It could just be that Wilson was Newcastle's number one target for the summer and they're now done, and that he was a back-up option for us so we'd go so far and no further on wages.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5305 on: September 07, 2020, 02:02:06 PM »
There is a point where it costs more to terminate than let them sit on their contacts for FFP I think.

Wilson clearly stated villa were in and it was a hard decision so it puts to bed the idea that we weren't really trying for him.

It also suggests one of two things - we may not be competing financially, we’re not selling a particularly compelling vision, or a bit of both. We really need to kick on.

It could just be that Wilson was Newcastle's number one target for the summer and they're now done, and that he was a back-up option for us so we'd go so far and no further on wages.

Perhaps, but if we’d got to the point of bidding and wanting a back up it suggests the first choice isn’t there either.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5306 on: September 07, 2020, 02:06:40 PM »
True.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5307 on: September 07, 2020, 02:13:55 PM »
I think we are reading to much into this Wilson to NUFC thing

he had both offers he fancied Newcastle over us for whatever reason and thats the top and bottom of it

we don’t like the feeling we’ve been dumped and look to spin it to make us look better but he just preferred Newcastle that’s it
It happens we get over it


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5308 on: September 07, 2020, 02:16:34 PM »
I think we are reading to much into this Wilson to NUFC thing

he had both offers he fancied Newcastle over us for whatever reason and thats the top and bottom of it

we don’t like the feeling we’ve been dumped and look to spin it to make us look better but he just preferred Newcastle that’s it
It happens we get over it



I'm not bothered about Wilson as such, just that with the season about to start we've signed one right back.  That's not very good, at all.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #5309 on: September 07, 2020, 02:18:24 PM »
I think we are reading to much into this Wilson to NUFC thing

he had both offers he fancied Newcastle over us for whatever reason and thats the top and bottom of it

we don’t like the feeling we’ve been dumped and look to spin it to make us look better but he just preferred Newcastle that’s it
It happens we get over it



I'm not bothered about Wilson as such, just that with the season about to start we've signed one right back.  That's not very good, at all.

Yup.

 


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