Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Richard E]

I’d be amazed if Watkins isn’t a Villa player before much longer. All else is smoke and mirrors.

[dave.woodhall]

Matt Cash posts can go here until it's a bit more likely.

[Steve67]

In relation to Matty Cash,  I recall Steve Bruce saying that transfers were done the other way around these days and that players generally spoke to clubs before a fee was agreed.  Clubs agree on the players availability and talk personal terms before they agree the money.  I don't know whether this is true or not though.

[johnny from donny]

I would imagine that talks run sort of concurrently in that the buying club would need permission to talk to the player or their agent to establish if they were interested in signing for them & how much they would want in salary; then, if they think a deal with the player is possible,  go back to the selling club to negotiate a transfer fee.
At any stage, a negative response obviously stops the transfer.

[SoccerHQ]

Since we are lacking in PL experience and old heads I'd keep Elmo as a squad player unless someone/Bruce makes a daft offer.   I think he can still hack it at PL level as a squaddie.

Same for me. He did well for us in the run in.

Would be fine with Calum Wilson and Watkins as our striker signings, doubt we'll do much better than that and gives us experience and potential up there.

Just a reminder that Pukki of Norwich outscored all our forwards by 5 league goals last season and his last league goal was on January 22nd! We have the worst set of forwards in the league by quite some distance so it's vital we do something serious about that rather than crossing our fingers.

[SoccerHQ]

I think I’d genuinely rather have Benteke back instead of Wilson.

Since the first game of 2017 season Benteke has scored 6 premier league goals, Wilson scored 30. Each to their own I guess!

I certainly get the injury concerns, he's had 3 bad ones at Bournemouth since 2015. Worth remembering though Danny Ings had 2 ACLs at Liverpool and does o.k nowadays.

Way I see it we're playing the long game with Tammy Abraham. Can't get him this summer but next season he'll probably just be warming the bench at Chelsea, his value will reduce if he dosen't sign a new deal and he could easily miss out on the England euros squad. If DS is still here and we finish mid table I think we'll go for him.

Wilson is a decent stop gap imo for that and also Watkins getting to grips with premier league football. In a years time we could have Tammy as number one forwards, Watkins supporting and Davis back from a loan spell actually knowing how to score goals. Wes aswell could come back and score some goals although I think he'll need a while to get up to speed again, people underestimating how bad his injury was.

Wilson then becomes a rotation option and makes our bench options much stronger. Or he scores 10 this season and we just sell him to one of the promoted clubs for what we signed him for.

We've made worse deals upfront in last 5 years.

[SoccerHQ]

Wilson clearly has talent, he's just injured all the time.

Still, be someone for Lansbury to talk to in the treatment room.

He featured in 30 prem games last season and same number season before. Last serious injury was mid 2017. Indeed he came back in October 2017 and featured in 28 games so he really hasn't missed much in 3 years now and started the majority of those given he was a key part of their rise.

[SoccerHQ]

I’d prefer Bournemouth’s other striker rather than Wilson, the Norwegian bloke with the English name.

Big rumours Spurs are in for him so that's what you'd be up against.

[SoccerHQ]

When was the last time we had a 20 goal league striker out of interest in the top division? Benteke was 1 off in 12/13 and Angel, Dublin and Yorke all had good scoring runs but never got to 20 league goals (surprised me in Yorke's case).

Realistically we need to sign someone who can hit 10-15 league goals if they play over 30 games and I'd be confident Wilson can do that if he stays fit. He hit 14 in 30 games in 18/19 sp 1 in 2 there.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Peter Withe

[ozzjim]

When was the last time we had a 20 goal league striker out of interest in the top division? Benteke was 1 off in 12/13 and Angel, Dublin and Yorke all had good scoring runs but never got to 20 league goals (surprised me in Yorke's case).

Realistically we need to sign someone who can hit 10-15 league goals if they play over 30 games and I'd be confident Wilson can do that if he stays fit. He hit 14 in 30 games in 18/19 sp 1 in 2 there.

I'm with you Soccer. Said right at the end of the season Wilson would be one of the 2 strikers I would go for. Watkins being so versatile would be ideal for the other.

I see Arsenal are being strongly linked with Benrahma. We should have got that done much earlier.

[JD]

Christian Luyindama (Galatasaray defender)

No new link but he is now fit again and "Christian Luyindama is a versatile player, who can also play as a defensive midfielder and forward"

He's a big unit and could be a good plan B if the price was right and we were linked with him in both last summer and winter transfer windows.

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We were linked with him in January.  Looks a decent player and certainly a unit.  Good passer of the ball.  Swap for Samatta once we have the elusive centre forward in place?

A defender who can play defensive midfield or upfront? If he can play in goal as well he will be a dream signing. 

[Londonvilla]

Werder boss Frank Baumann says Milot Rashica could reconsider his options as RB Leipzig talks stall

Friday, August 28

According to reports, RB Leipzig are willing to pay €15 million plus €3 million in bonuses for Rashica, but Werder want at least €20 million upfront plus an additional amount in add-ons.

https://bulinews.com/news/5863/werder-boss-frank-baumann-says-milot-rashica-could-reconsider-his-options-rb-leipzig-talks-stall

This has deadline day written all over it.....but I still want him as one of our forwards

[Sexual Ealing]

In relation to Matty Cash,  I recall Steve Bruce saying that transfers were done the other way around these days and that players generally spoke to clubs before a fee was agreed.  Clubs agree on the players availability and talk personal terms before they agree the money.  I don't know whether this is true or not though.

I'm hearing that it's just the mad few that are like that.

[Londonvilla]

BBC Nottingham Sport
@BBCRNS

Amidst reports about the future of Matty Cash, a source at the City Ground tells us tonight that no agreement is in place with Aston Villa for the sale of the defender.  #nffc #avfc

https://twitter.com/BBCRNS/status/1300518354168549376

Come on villa remember Money Talks