Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[SheffieldVillain]

Remind me again - how often has a club sacked a successful manager because a better one suddenly became available, and improved?

I'd hardly call scraping promotion via the playoffs and narrowly avoiding relegation (both only via streaky late season runs) successful.

Leicester won the league after getting rid of Pearson, who had a near identical 'success' (promotion and scraping survival). Watford got rid of a promotion winner, Southampton, Spurs, Man City. Chelsea do it all the time and have often done better by doing so.

As far as Chelsea go, in the season each of their managers left:
Sarri - finished 3rd, 26 points behind the champions
Conte - finished 5th, 30 points behind the champions
Hiddink - was only ever interim manager
Mourinho - were 16th in the table when sacked
Benitez - was only ever interim manager
Di Matteo - Had lost his last 5 games and on the verge of exiting Europe
Ancelotti - didn't win a trophy in his last season

None of those were sacked just because someone better was available. They were each sacked for failing to achieve what the club wanted at that moment which in Chelsea's case is being top of the league/and or Champions League winners.

[Nunkin1965]

It is all about results and if Dean doesn’t get them then the people who aren’t having him under any circumstances because he isn’t a “name” will have their way.
Personally I hope he succeeds next season.

[kieron]

Gregg Evans states we're had a bid of £10m rejected for Matty Cash.

[Mister E]

Gregg Evans states we're had a bid of £10m rejected for Matty Cash.

Farcical really - everyone knows we have cash so are holding out. When you consider that CP bought Eze - one of the EFL's brightest players last season - for £16m (up to £19.5m) - £10m for a fullback is more than a decent offer.

[Gareth]

Gregg Evans states we're had a bid of £10m rejected for Matty Cash.

Farcical really - everyone knows we have cash so are holding out. When you consider that CP bought Eze - one of the EFL's brightest players last season - for £16m (up to £19.5m) - £10m for a fullback is more than a decent offer.

A bit like Jack if he is under contract then the selling club can hold out for whatever fee they want

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Remind me again - how often has a club sacked a successful manager because a better one suddenly became available, and improved?

I'd hardly call scraping promotion via the playoffs and narrowly avoiding relegation (both only via streaky late season runs) successful.

Leicester won the league after getting rid of Pearson, who had a near identical 'success' (promotion and scraping survival). Watford got rid of a promotion winner, Southampton, Spurs, Man City. Chelsea do it all the time and have often done better by doing so.

Spurs finished 4th and replaced Redknapp. That for me is the real standout replacement. Took some guts but it paid off for them. As for Dean, who knows. He got us up and managed to keep us up by the skin of our teeth. We should be thanking Norwich as much as anybody for their kamikaze approach to last season by not spending any money. It's now a massive season for both Dean and ourselves. I expect the board to fully support him but I'm sure he knows they won't be patient should he under deliver. They will want to see real progress and rightly so.

[john e]

To be clear, I'm not in favour of sacking Smith, he has fulfilled his brief. I just don't really think I've ever been convinced he's got what it takes to make the club leap forward in the Premier League, as I don't think we've ever really looked like a team with a coherent plan or style or anything really.

I agree with this
like Monty i don’t want him ditched but I’m not filled with confidence that he can do a Wolves or a Leicester for instance

I’ll be honest I did want more last season
especially in terms of football performance and tactical levels

[aj2k77]

If we end up spending the best part of £50 million on 3 championship players: Cash,Watkins and Swift  , then would you be happy with that?

[Sexual Ealing]

It's a yes from me.

Edit: the Championship is of a higher standard than the Belgian top flight, for example.

[Gareth]

Matty Cash bid rejected, that should send twitter into meltdown - I can’t say I really remember him from when we were in Championship so I have no clue if that would be a good / bad signing but I’m sure the flame throwers will be out saying he’s shit / a championship player / underwhelming / not a striker so why - if he’s been identified as a player the mgr / DoF want and it is doable now get it done there are no rules to the sequence of signings

[aev]

In the absence of any actual news I did read that were interested in Eze but “shocked” by his wage demands.

I am all for a bit of financial prudence but most players we are linked with are also linked with other English clubs. If we want them we will have to pay up for them.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Think he scored against us in the 5-5 game

[kippaxvilla2]

Doing the same as last year.  Not prepared to stump up for first choice targets.  That Cash story is in the Express and Star so more believable.

[SheffieldVillain]

If we end up spending the best part of £50 million on 3 championship players: Cash,Watkins and Swift  , then would you be happy with that?

No. Neither Cash nor Swift improve the first team or even really make the bench substantially stronger (Watkins would). That's what we need to be doing. Is Swift much better than Hourihane or Nakamba? Is Cash better than Guilbert or even AEH (of course he's younger but at the present moment)? Nah, not for me.

[Risso]

If we end up spending the best part of £50 million on 3 championship players: Cash,Watkins and Swift  , then would you be happy with that?

As long as it wasn't the only business we did.