Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[kippaxvilla2]

as it’s the transfer thread and talk of wages etc

Steve Stride posted the 1972 accounts on Twitter today

the total cost of managers, Trainers and players wages for the 72 season was £161,578
money from TV was £4102

ha ha

So Doug did fund the club then?  Runs for cover before DW arrival.

[Damo70]

Amazes me with the side they have and the fact they are good for the first time in about 30 years, just how per-occupied dog heads are with Villa. When we were top 6 every season I don't think I thought about them once.

40 years

Was about to say this - 30 years ago Wolves were mid-table in the (old) Division 2, having spent a few seasons in the (old) Division 3 and 4 before that.

Last time they were more relevant than they are now was 1979-80 when they finished 6th and won the League Cup.

It's a sign of insecurity that they're trying to manufacture this rivalry which hasn't really existed since they signed Andy Gray.

They're probably solid mid-table in our rivals list.

Wolves, Albion and Small Heath all measure themselves against us. Which rarely ends well for them. Which explains why on the rare occasions they are better than us  or beat us they all wet their pants with excitement.

[Ads]

as it’s the transfer thread and talk of wages etc

Steve Stride posted the 1972 accounts on Twitter today

the total cost of managers, Trainers and players wages for the 72 season was £161,578
money from TV was £4102

ha ha

I looked at that too! Wages with at circa £6440 for 25 players and coaches (possibly too many accounted for there) would be £72,000 per annum in todays £. A good wage, but it is quite something that Jack is probably on that a week.

[Damo70]

Clearly struggling to attract our number one choices. Do we pay over the odds or move down the list? Does having an unknown manager contribute?

Where is the evidence we are struggling to attract our number one choices? Who exactly are our number one choices? Who have we missed out on that we went for?

[Nastylee]

We're one of six clubs not to make a signing. Our manager stresses he wants players in quickly. It isn't happening.  That points towards things not going as smoothly as they would like.

I agree though, if the players are worth waiting for then we shouldn't fill the squad with second raters. Everyone would have expected some movement by now.

[pauliewalnuts]

We're one of six clubs not to make a signing. Our manager stresses he wants players in quickly. It isn't happening.  That points towards things not going as smoothly as they would like.

I agree though, if the players are worth waiting for then we shouldn't fill the squad with second raters. Everyone would have expected some movement by now.

I imagine a lot of clubs who were safe way before the end of the season could move deals forward faster than us.

[dave.woodhall]

as it’s the transfer thread and talk of wages etc

Steve Stride posted the 1972 accounts on Twitter today

the total cost of managers, Trainers and players wages for the 72 season was £161,578
money from TV was £4102

ha ha

So Doug did fund the club then?  Runs for cover before DW arrival.

Of course. Nobody paid to get into the match and the programmes were free.

[Steve67]

We're one of six clubs not to make a signing. Our manager stresses he wants players in quickly. It isn't happening.  That points towards things not going as smoothly as they would like.

I agree though, if the players are worth waiting for then we shouldn't fill the squad with second raters. Everyone would have expected some movement by now.

I imagine a lot of clubs who were safe way before the end of the season could move deals forward faster than us.

Our main targets might also be the players that other clubs will allow to leave once they have their own targets signed and sealed.  Perhaps Tammy Abraham is one such player but we have to wait until Fwank has signed Havertz et al.

[kippaxvilla2]

as it’s the transfer thread and talk of wages etc

Steve Stride posted the 1972 accounts on Twitter today

the total cost of managers, Trainers and players wages for the 72 season was £161,578
money from TV was £4102

ha ha

So Doug did fund the club then?  Runs for cover before DW arrival.

Of course. Nobody paid to get into the match and the programmes were free.

I have now had the benefit of reading the full P&L and would like to withdraw my earlier statement.....

[dave.woodhall]

Anyway, by the time those accounts were published Doug had only been chairman for a few months.

[SoccerHQ]

Anyone starting to think we are going to struggle to buy decent unless we pay over the odds?  I mean we have allegedly offered £30m for a 22 year old who’s been in the Scottish league for one season.  If the stories about Watkins are to be believed he has an £18m release clause but they seemingly want to just forget that and ask for £25m - not sure how that works.  And as for Benrahma completely over the top prices being quoted. 

Welcome to the premier league. Have a look at who Everton have signed last 3 years, many of them established players or signed from Barcelona. Not that it's done them much good.

Also have to factor in as soon as prem club is interested selling club will automatically add 10-15m onto the price due to the ridiculous tv deals here.

When Celtic sold Dembele to Lyon he only actually went for 19.7m.

We overpaid for many players last summer and many of them certainly weren't good so don't have an issue paying 30m + for some who is actually pretty proven at top level.

Edit: Torino signed Swiss LB Ricardo Rodriguez from AC Milan last week. 27 years old with 71 caps for Swiss and many seasons playing in europe for likes of Wolfsburg. Was very highly rated there but lost his way in last two years. The fee was 3 million euros! Honestly think if a prem club had shown interest then Milan would've just put another 10m on the asking price so it's the sort of thing you have to contend with unless the broadcasting deals eventually collapse.

[SoccerHQ]

As for the overpriced players from championship well we're guilty as charged. We paid over 40m for Hogan, McCormack and Kodjia didn't we?

[kippaxvilla2]

Did I hear right?  Everton have put a £140m price tag on Richarlison?!

[Big Ming]

Anyone starting to think we are going to struggle to buy decent unless we pay over the odds?  I mean we have allegedly offered £30m for a 22 year old who’s been in the Scottish league for one season.  If the stories about Watkins are to be believed he has an £18m release clause but they seemingly want to just forget that and ask for £25m - not sure how that works.  And as for Benrahma completely over the top prices being quoted. 

Welcome to the premier league. Have a look at who Everton have signed last 3 years, many of them established players or signed from Barcelona. Not that it's done them much good.

Also have to factor in as soon as prem club is interested selling club will automatically add 10-15m onto the price due to the ridiculous tv deals here.

When Celtic sold Dembele to Lyon he only actually went for 19.7m.

We overpaid for many players last summer and many of them certainly weren't good so don't have an issue paying 30m + for some who is actually pretty proven at top level.

Edit: Torino signed Swiss LB Ricardo Rodriguez from AC Milan last week. 27 years old with 71 caps for Swiss and many seasons playing in europe for likes of Wolfsburg. Was very highly rated there but lost his way in last two years. The fee was 3 million euros! Honestly think if a prem club had shown interest then Milan would've just put another 10m on the asking price so it's the sort of thing you have to contend with unless the broadcasting deals eventually collapse.

The word is out.

Villa have big money to spend.  Maybe as much as £100m to £150m

[ChicagoLion]

Good points SHQ. If they had gone for the 5 subs option it would have created even more Player price  inflation.