Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Mister E]

If Luiz stays (and i hope he does) presumably Marvelous will be his understudy.

I see Marvelous was among the top five PL players for interceptions last season. If someone can coach him to do something useful with it once he has intercepted it, we may yet be onto a winner.

I’ve a feeling Nakamba will be a very good player for us next season.

If he can sort out his decision-making, positioning and giving-away-fouls-in-silly-places; I agree!

[Clampy]

We've signed Ben Chrisene from Exeter City. He's only 16 so one for the future obviously.

[Jon Crofts]

If Luiz stays (and i hope he does) presumably Marvelous will be his understudy.

I see Marvelous was among the top five PL players for interceptions last season. If someone can coach him to do something useful with it once he has intercepted it, we may yet be onto a winner.

I’ve a feeling Nakamba will be a very good player for us next season.

If he can sort out his decision-making, positioning and giving-away-fouls-in-silly-places; I agree!

I’ll cut him some slack based purely on that tackle on Aguero. No, not interested in hearing about how you think it was a foul.

[simboy]

We've signed Ben Chrisene from Exeter City. He's only 16 so one for the future obviously.

Helluva under 23 team incoming!

[john e]

If Luiz stays (and i hope he does) presumably Marvelous will be his understudy.

I see Marvelous was among the top five PL players for interceptions last season. If someone can coach him to do something useful with it once he has intercepted it, we may yet be onto a winner.

I’ve a feeling Nakamba will be a very good player for us next season.

If he can sort out his decision-making, positioning and giving-away-fouls-in-silly-places; I agree!

you mean like Luiz was at times before lockdown

sometimes takes a Season before overseas players settle into the prem
we judge them to early

I agree with nigel

[Big Ming]

We've signed Ben Chrisene from Exeter City. He's only 16 so one for the future obviously.

If these youngsters we keep acquiring are half as good as some of the hype, we're going to have league winning Youth/U23's next season!

[Mister E]

If Luiz stays (and i hope he does) presumably Marvelous will be his understudy.
I see Marvelous was among the top five PL players for interceptions last season. If someone can coach him to do something useful with it once he has intercepted it, we may yet be onto a winner.

I’ve a feeling Nakamba will be a very good player for us next season.

If he can sort out his decision-making, positioning and giving-away-fouls-in-silly-places; I agree!

you mean like Luiz was at times before lockdown
sometimes takes a Season before overseas players settle into the prem
we judge them to early
I agree with nigel

My comments were not meant to be critical! I strongly believe that it often takes a season for players new to the Premier League to 'come good', and I'd say that we can be cautiously optimistic about a few of last season's newbies.
Nakamba has some development to do, and - if he does so - he will be an asset.

[themossman]

I think the jury’s out on nakamba but I do find it strange that he’s been written off when he looked very good early on, better than Luiz, albeit inconsistent and with the kind of very visible mistakes you’re going to get in that position while you’re developing.

[eamonn]

Luiz always had the technical prowess, it was just whether he could get up to speed. Nakamba has not looked in the same class. Different type of player, granted.

[themossman]

Yeah I agree they are very different players. But there was definitely time when people were lauding nakamba (West Ham?) as one of the few players performing for us while Luiz was making defensive mistakes and looking knackered halfway through games.

I just think it’s a really difficult season in which to judge the new players, not just because of covid.

[N'ZMAV]

Nakamba is only kind of useful without the ball.
Luiz had probably 10 good games - thankfully they were sort of all in a good run at the end.

Thankfully what they both did got us over the line.

[LeeB]

I wouldn't write any of last season's signings off bar Jota.

[N'ZMAV]

I had high hopes for Jota.

[Sexual Ealing]

With Luiz it was obvious from day one (added to his pedigree) that the quality was there. It just took most of the season (and lockdown) for him to adjust to the pace, and to the fact that he had to be mentally on it for 90+ minutes.

Nakamba started well enough - and has had further to travel in terms of the quality of leagues that he's come from - but his confidence seemed to be shot by halfway through the season. That's not to say he ought to be written off, but there's much more to do for him.

[themossman]

For me Nakamba is a bit like Guilbert. Good and bad games. An athlete rather than a technician, with a habit of occasionally looking reckless.

I don’t think he’s ever going to look silky or good on the ball, but I do think he could be a useful out and out play spoiler in a team that has a better shape to it.