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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 510050 times)

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8400 on: September 29, 2020, 06:41:01 AM »
I appreciate Hourihane is a bit marmite for a few on here but you cannot underestimate his go forward threat, for all the plaudits Trez ot at the end of last season, Hourihane's assists were pivotal to our survival.

I also think his 'link up play' is far better than he gets credit for too, see AEG's goal in the play off final. He'll never be a put the foot in type but he's more than good enough in other areas for us for where we are at the moment.



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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8401 on: September 29, 2020, 07:00:48 AM »
I was thinking about the long list of English midfield players that are hyped as the next big thing only to turm out as mediocre. We have Ross Berkeley who kicked up a fuss to leave Everton, got injured bulked up and slowed down. Rice is a decent water carrier but not much more, Foden is another tidy footballer but not a world beater. RLC looked promising but his body is not up to it. I think Mount and Madison have something to offer and are good PL players but not world class.
The list goes on.

Foden or Sancho to be the next Joe Cole. Andros Townsend was once.




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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8402 on: September 29, 2020, 07:36:20 AM »
I've never seen the fuss about Sancho. Obviously he's playing at a very high level, but it seems to me like somebody's decided because he's playing in a foreign league he must be far better than he is.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8403 on: September 29, 2020, 07:38:46 AM »
I feel that it's a bit harsh on Hourihane to say that all he does is score goals and gain assists - what else is there?
He's not got a single wicket since he joined, and his batting average is shocking.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8404 on: September 29, 2020, 07:46:11 AM »
If we sign a Barkley -  then Hourihane will be out of the team (lets hope that we do sign Barkley)

Really?? I have no issue with signing Barkley, but Hourihane has scored or assisted continuously through our run in, and at the start of this season. Why would we want him out the team.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8405 on: September 29, 2020, 08:06:34 AM »
If we sign a Barkley -  then Hourihane will be out of the team (lets hope that we do sign Barkley)

Really?? I have no issue with signing Barkley, but Hourihane has scored or assisted continuously through our run in, and at the start of this season. Why would we want him out the team.

Hourihane has scored the same number of Premier League goals for us as Barkely has for Chelsea.

Hourihane's just taken one and a bit fewer seasons of football to do it in though.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8406 on: September 29, 2020, 08:17:32 AM »
Hourihane is a useful player to have around. Unless its set in stone that we're buying a long term experienced replacement(s) for him now or next summer i'd offer him a new contract for 2 years.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8407 on: September 29, 2020, 08:21:53 AM »
Sign Barkley who is dropped? He wonít sign for us unless he is guaranteed to start.

So if Hourihane is better than McGinn or luiz then one of them must go out of the side

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8408 on: September 29, 2020, 08:22:25 AM »
I feel that it's a bit harsh on Hourihane to say that all he does is score goals and gain assists - what else is there?
Well, as a MF, he needs to give cover for the left side: his defending is pretty woeful and Targett looks the worse for it.
I say that not because Hourihane is a target for my criticism, but because he could be so much better. I like a lot of what he does in the oppo's half of the pitch.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2020, 08:24:41 AM by Mister E »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8409 on: September 29, 2020, 08:26:31 AM »
Hourihane isnít always consistent, but What he also brings as well as assists, is leadership. I think he was instrumental is us staying up, when he came back into the team from the second of Man U onwards, he was really vocal, trying to drive the team on. This kind of thing is often over egged, but he actually does seem to care about playing for Villa and I really like the fact that he has worked his up through the divisions.
Saying all that a trio of Connor, McGinn and Luiz seems a bit light and we could do with another in their imo.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8410 on: September 29, 2020, 08:27:27 AM »
Sign Barkley who is dropped? He wonít sign for us unless he is guaranteed to start.

So if Hourihane is better than McGinn or luiz then one of them must go out of the side

Don't sign him then. He's wank anyway.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8411 on: September 29, 2020, 08:37:36 AM »
I understand the concerns about Hourihane, but for his weaknesses, there is also a fair amount he offers (reminder last night).

Strikes me if we're talking poor performers of the last few years, there are plenty ahead of him.

What I do get, though, is the concern about relying on him. We should have options in that role (and in every role, really).

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8412 on: September 29, 2020, 09:10:47 AM »
I think we should also take into consideration how much of a role Jacob Ramsey will play this season before we look to replace Hourihane. This lad is an excellent player, comfortable on the ball and plays with maturity beyond his age.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8413 on: September 29, 2020, 09:14:56 AM »
Having Hourihane in the squad or team is not the problem, the problem is that we have very poor options on the bench. We need competition, and if we bring someone in then they should be better or different to what we have already. We have three good midfielders in McGinn, Hourihane and Luiz but play them all together and we look lightweight.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #8414 on: September 29, 2020, 09:16:54 AM »
See Lampard has confirmed RLC could be moving on loan this week. Also claims he's "fit as a fiddle" :o

 


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