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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4770 on: September 05, 2020, 05:53:24 PM »
you can accuse the Villa recruitment staff and owners of a few things if you look hard enough
 but being penny pinching is not one of them

How so? We could’ve signed Watkins and Benrhama last pre season for a considerably lower price if it wasn’t for penny pinching.

I thought they wanted £28m for Benrhama last year.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4771 on: September 05, 2020, 06:02:18 PM »
If we're looking for a defensive midfielder, Declan Rice is still available and despite playing for Ingerland his price should now be halved what it was yesterday. Alternatively, I like the look of Jean-Ricner Bellegarde. Big, strong, young, skillfull and runs all day. Cheap too. Doesn't play for Brentford though.

Offline mcgrath_85

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4772 on: September 05, 2020, 06:20:23 PM »
you can accuse the Villa recruitment staff and owners of a few things if you look hard enough
 but being penny pinching is not one of them

How so? We could’ve signed Watkins and Benrhama last pre season for a considerably lower price if it wasn’t for penny pinching.

I thought they wanted £28m for Benrhama last year.

It wasn’t that much.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4773 on: September 05, 2020, 06:28:19 PM »
you can accuse the Villa recruitment staff and owners of a few things if you look hard enough
 but being penny pinching is not one of them

How so? We could’ve signed Watkins and Benrhama last pre season for a considerably lower price if it wasn’t for penny pinching.

I thought they wanted £28m for Benrhama last year.

It wasn’t that much.
Wasn't it rumoured to be £11 million

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4774 on: September 05, 2020, 06:46:36 PM »
you can accuse the Villa recruitment staff and owners of a few things if you look hard enough
 but being penny pinching is not one of them

How so? We could’ve signed Watkins and Benrhama last pre season for a considerably lower price if it wasn’t for penny pinching.

I thought they wanted £28m for Benrhama last year.

It wasn’t that much.
Wasn't it rumoured to be £11 million

This is why I've found I can easily adopt a laissez-faire attitude towards the inner workings of our transfer dealings these days. What you're discussing is from 12 months ago, yet there's nothing concrete in historical fact that shows those events even occurred or what figures were or weren't rebuffed. Nobody knows nuffin about nuffin these days until a player's two hours away from stretching a shirt.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4775 on: September 05, 2020, 07:10:37 PM »
As there's now so many internet football sites, blogs, supposed itk twitter accounts all looking for clicks, follows, subscriptions without even getting onto the old/traditional (chip) papers all competing through the avalanche of digital noise, regurgitating any old nonsense, agent rumour and misdirection I can definitely see why you'd come to that conclusion LastFootStamper.

*Although as has been mentioned the thread title does say gossip, speculation and butter ollocks in the title.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2020, 07:15:01 PM by Diablo »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4776 on: September 05, 2020, 07:24:02 PM »
No point even talking about last year tbh, last year Watkins had never played as a striker and Benrahma hadn’t been the best player in the champ, so there is no point using hindsight really.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4777 on: September 05, 2020, 07:56:14 PM »
The window this year is not normal. Because of just how late it ended the activity in the window will go right to the end. Sky will literally fucking orgasm in the run up and fuck knows what mess they will be in on deadline day. It’s going to be obnoxious.

Offline nigel

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4778 on: September 05, 2020, 08:16:45 PM »
you can accuse the Villa recruitment staff and owners of a few things if you look hard enough
 but being penny pinching is not one of them

How so? We could’ve signed Watkins and Benrhama last pre season for a considerably lower price if it wasn’t for penny pinching.

I thought they wanted £28m for Benrhama last year.

It wasn’t that much.
Wasn't it rumoured to be £11 million


I vaguely remember it being the same as Maupay.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4779 on: September 05, 2020, 08:25:59 PM »
From what I've seen Maupay is bang average & a right little bastard too. Would Brighton get any more money than they paid for him?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4780 on: September 05, 2020, 08:26:59 PM »
From what I've seen Maupay is bang average & a right little bastard too. Would Brighton get any more money than they paid for him?
Probably still swap him for Wesley though.

Offline AGRIPPA

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4781 on: September 05, 2020, 08:29:56 PM »
Seems like Wesley's reputation has increased since his injury.... can’t believe those thinking he can do a job don’t remember his poor control/ball retention/ shooting/heading.....he’s not very good and I think we all saw enough last season to know that

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4782 on: September 05, 2020, 08:42:30 PM »
From what I've seen Maupay is bang average & a right little bastard too. Would Brighton get any more money than they paid for him?
Probably still swap him for Wesley though.

Wesley has a better goals to games ratio in the Premier than Maupay (10 in 37 compared to 6 in 22) does, despite Wesley being 22 and settling into a new country in his first half a season while playing for a struggling team. Whatever you think about Wesley, I really don't get what Maupay has done that's so special for Brighton as a goalscorer that makes him 'the one that got away'.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2020, 08:52:07 PM by SheffieldVillain »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4783 on: September 05, 2020, 08:52:54 PM »
From what I've seen Maupay is bang average & a right little bastard too. Would Brighton get any more money than they paid for him?
Probably still swap him for Wesley though.

Wesley has a better goals to games ratio in the Premier than Maupay (10 in 37 compared to 6 in 22) does, despite Wesley being 22 and settling into a new country in his first half a season while playing for a struggling team. Whatever you think about Wesley, I really don't get what Maupay has done for Brighton as a goalscorer that makes him 'the one that got away'.

Wesley only got 5 goals in the league, which unfortunately, completely does for your argument! 

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #4784 on: September 05, 2020, 09:08:38 PM »
From what I've seen Maupay is bang average & a right little bastard too. Would Brighton get any more money than they paid for him?
Probably still swap him for Wesley though.

Wesley has a better goals to games ratio in the Premier than Maupay (10 in 37 compared to 6 in 22) does, despite Wesley being 22 and settling into a new country in his first half a season while playing for a struggling team. Whatever you think about Wesley, I really don't get what Maupay has done for Brighton as a goalscorer that makes him 'the one that got away'.

Wesley only got 5 goals in the league, which unfortunately, completely does for your argument! 

Not really. At least you're right that I put 'in the Premier' so if you're taking that literally which I suppose is a fair point, Maupay does have a slightly better rate (1 in 3.7 to Wesley's 1 in 4.2). If you include cup games, it's Maupay at 1 every 3.8 games, Wesley at 1 every 3.7 games.  So in both cases in both scenarios, both are 1 in 4 strikers.

Either way, my general reason for replying was that I don't get what made Maupay's record last season such a standout that so many people saw him as one that got away, rather than continuing the Wesley debate. I just don't see it in him personally, maybe I'm missing something - lots of people seem to rate him so maybe it's me.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2020, 09:15:41 PM by SheffieldVillain »

 


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