Aston Villa v Sheff United Post Match Thread

[Steve67]

Not a great surprise to hear Danny Mills saying there is no difference between what happened yesterday and Elland Road last season. I did think there was a chance he might grasp the fact that there was no guarantee that the game stays at 1-0 even if they allow the goal but that concept seemed alien to him as well.

They are world's apart because we did not cheat, Leeds did.  We did not deliberately try to con anyone, Leeds did.

[Brazilian Villain]

Danny Mills and Danny Murphy, a prize pair of tools bringing down the good name of Dannies everywhere.

Danny Dyer?

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Danny Mills and Danny Murphy, a prize pair of tools bringing down the good name of Dannies everywhere.

Desperate.

[andrew08]

The thing I got most from the game, eventually, was the fact I could actually be comfortable and considerably wealthier by watching it from my armchair. The initial shock of an empty Villa Park and the piped in noise was actually quite upsetting.

The games itself? If in August we knew that with 10 games to go Keinan Davies was going to be our main striker I would have expected us to already be relegated and preparing for next season. That on top of Jack playing on the wing will get Smith sacked as I struggle to see how our owners, Mr Purslow or our Director of Football will agree or understand that tactic. I thought we wanted a club wide, 8 year olds to first team method of play? I never saw Brentford play hoof ball when they passed us off the pitch for 3 seasons.

That said we still have our destiny in our hands until the moment West Ham on the same games go 3 or more points ahead of us. Until then I’ll keep the (Blind) faith.

[ROBBO]

What is obvious is that Jack our one reliable goal threat is playing out of position and has been all season, we need him closer to goal not on our half- back line, same with JM.

[Sexual Ealing]

The thing I got most from the game, eventually, was the fact I could actually be comfortable and considerably wealthier by watching it from my armchair. The initial shock of an empty Villa Park and the piped in noise was actually quite upsetting.

The games itself? If in August we knew that with 10 games to go Keinan Davies was going to be our main striker I would have expected us to already be relegated and preparing for next season. That on top of Jack playing on the wing will get Smith sacked as I struggle to see how our owners, Mr Purslow or our Director of Football will agree or understand that tactic. I thought we wanted a club wide, 8 year olds to first team method of play? I never saw Brentford play hoof ball when they passed us off the pitch for 3 seasons.

That said we still have our destiny in our hands until the moment West Ham on the same games go 3 or more points ahead of us. Until then I’ll keep the (Blind) faith.

I've been thinking that for ages. The only answer I can come up with is that it's easy to look like that against a Bruce side.

[tony scott]

Well was that it?the vast improvement due to a 3 months reappraisal period, failed to materialise, it’s not all negative we got a midfielder who was motm who wasn’t JG or Super John that surely bodes well for the future,  we really do have a mountain to climb.

[Gareth]

Could a point per game keep us up? In other words, is there a chance 35 points, as it usually would, might still be enough? Before the break we all thought it would take 40 points. Maybe that's no longer the case given the disruptions for in-form Watford and the fact that you have to fancy the teams with bigger squads given the 5-subs situation?

I think we can make that call this time next week after 2 full rounds of fixtures so we can see if weird assed results are happening - from our game it looked like teams were out on their feet after 60-65 mins so I would expect lots of late goals & cheap points in those first couple of rounds of games.

[VinnieChase84]

Still think we need another 13 points to stay up. I had us down for a draw wednesday on my 'map for staying up' so on track so far.

Hoping our fitness v chelsea gets us something

[Holte132]

This is in today's newspaper:

Sports lawyers have suggested Sheffield United would have a legal case to pursue the Premier League should the club miss out on a European spot as a result of the Hawk-Eye blunder.

However, the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) is understood to be resistant to the possibility of any changes in its protocol, and is opposed to using the video assistant referee to double check any future mistakes.

Any increased use of Var would lead to further criticism for the technology delaying the flow of play, officials believe. "Last night was a freak... a perfect storm," one source close to the organisation said.

Sports lawyer Nick De Marco QC, of Blackstone Chambers, has said, however, that both United and clubs finishing a point below Villa in the relegation fight could have a “good claim”. 

“If Sheffield United end up being denied qualification for a Uefa competition by two points or less, or another club finishes a point below Aston Villa at the end of the season and is relegated instead of them, considering the amount of money at stake you cannot rule out a club bringing a claim against the Premier League, the providers of the technology, or both," he said. "Such a claim might be unprecedented, but, depending on all the circumstances, it could be a good claim.”

[Richard E]

This is in today's newspaper:

Sports lawyers have suggested Sheffield United would have a legal case to pursue the Premier League should the club miss out on a European spot as a result of the Hawk-Eye blunder.

However, the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) is understood to be resistant to the possibility of any changes in its protocol, and is opposed to using the video assistant referee to double check any future mistakes.

Any increased use of Var would lead to further criticism for the technology delaying the flow of play, officials believe. "Last night was a freak... a perfect storm," one source close to the organisation said.

Sports lawyer Nick De Marco QC, of Blackstone Chambers, has said, however, that both United and clubs finishing a point below Villa in the relegation fight could have a “good claim”. 

“If Sheffield United end up being denied qualification for a Uefa competition by two points or less, or another club finishes a point below Aston Villa at the end of the season and is relegated instead of them, considering the amount of money at stake you cannot rule out a club bringing a claim against the Premier League, the providers of the technology, or both," he said. "Such a claim might be unprecedented, but, depending on all the circumstances, it could be a good claim.”

Translation - There is no chance whatsoever of this ending in a legal claim but I get a free advert for me and my Chambers out of commenting on it.

[olaftab]

Well Lawyers are complete ****s. Present company excepted of course.
I am sure they have an oath which starts like "Introduce conflict wherever there is accord...

[Ads]

Haha thinking exactly that Richard. Off you pop, you fancy dress wearing clown.

[PeterWithe]

That chap seems to make a very nice living out of football doesn't he. I came across his name when looking at something and looked at his bio on his chambers website a few weeks back, he's been involved in nearly every football case as far back as I can remember.

I cant see the PL being too keen on anyone going to court about on-field decisions, it would never cease.

[Richard E]

I appeared once in front of Paul Gilroy QC, who is another specialist in this area and represented MON against us, when he was sitting as an Employment Judge in Birmingham. He was very good (i.e. we won.)