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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4365 on: May 19, 2020, 11:34:34 PM »
 
Ta

There's spelling and grammar issues there, with a double negative. To clarify I'm not saying there is no cause of action or no prospects, I was dipping in and out of the post so mumped up the English.

Ordinary rules require 75% majority to pass a special resolution. I've seen 70% knocking about, so presumably 14 teams are required for a normal resolution.

My gut feeling is that relegation would have severe consequences for the league and that the threats are empty. Whatever comes out of Pandoras Box can never be put back in. The law of unexpected consequences is something difficult to mitigate against. So why risk it?


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4366 on: May 20, 2020, 10:18:46 AM »
I'm following the Hearts situation closely at the minute.

Their proposal for Reconstruction is an interesting one that was denied first time but they have revisited with a suggestion of litigation if it's not agreed. I think a similar approach here would be right. i.e. that the league increases in size, promotion happens but no relegation. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose.

The Hearts fans are desperate for the club to fight their corner. There are still rumblings about Dundee's change of heart/vote of course.

All I know is that I'd rather not be the person making the decisions, though I wouldn't mind their money.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4367 on: May 20, 2020, 11:19:20 AM »
If 6 people tested positive who have they been with, who have they infected that may have it but have tested negative and will there be tests before every game to stop transmission? If so, if players have to drop out it's incredible - this is in no way even. If I was a player I'd be telling the administrators to have a 20 game 5 a side league first to prove everything was ok.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4368 on: May 20, 2020, 12:50:53 PM »
I'm following the Hearts situation closely at the minute.

Their proposal for Reconstruction is an interesting one that was denied first time but they have revisited with a suggestion of litigation if it's not agreed. I think a similar approach here would be right. i.e. that the league increases in size, promotion happens but no relegation. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose.

The Hearts fans are desperate for the club to fight their corner. There are still rumblings about Dundee's change of heart/vote of course.

All I know is that I'd rather not be the person making the decisions, though I wouldn't mind their money.

I think the difference is that the Scottish league has a history of tinkering with the format which isn't present in England, save for changing numbers of teams in divisions very occasionally. Also I assume the reconstruction is planned as a long term plan rather than just for one season. The sticking point with the promoting Leeds and West Brom solution, leaving aside the fact neither of the fuckers merit it while the season is incomplete, is how do you promote teams from League 1 where it is far less clearcut?

I have been mulling this matter over for weeks and while I think it is ludicrous we could be relegated without the season being over, I do understand other teams saying it is ludicrous their efforts so far this season are for nought. Put it this way, if Tottenham got in the CL ahead of Leicester off the back of this many people would say that is demonstrably unfair. That is how other clubs, paticularly at the top of the Champ, view us getting another crack at the PL. I don't agree with them when we're the ones who'll suffer which is down to my bias more than anything else. As you say, difficult decision for someone to make.
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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4369 on: May 20, 2020, 01:45:29 PM »
...save for changing numbers of teams in divisions very occasionally.

So, we do have a history of doing exactly what's being talked about. Namely, it wouldn't be that hard to go to 22 teams for a season or two.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4370 on: May 20, 2020, 02:10:24 PM »
Do you think project restart will see the Villa v Sheffield Utd & Man City v Arsenal as the first two fixtures played ?
The four of us need to play our game in hand difference I would have thought before any idea of any points per game scenario having any / more credibility should the season be curtailed. Likewise I’d have thought that the remaining ten rounds would need to be be played on a same day same time basis  in case of any further Lockdown. Unfortunately I know that would fly in the face of TV broadcasters who would love the usual array of fixture days & times ?
I’m just getting more concerned with every passing day that every club other than the current bottom three would have nothing to lose by sending us down on PPG 🤔🤔

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4371 on: May 20, 2020, 02:13:47 PM »
Games could also be played during the working day too.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4372 on: May 20, 2020, 02:43:53 PM »
Games could also be played during the working day too.

I get the reasoning but no way the paymasters will agree to that.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4373 on: May 20, 2020, 04:51:16 PM »
...save for changing numbers of teams in divisions very occasionally.

So, we do have a history of doing exactly what's being talked about. Namely, it wouldn't be that hard to go to 22 teams for a season or two.

In Scottish football there is relatively recent precedent for no teams getting relegated in the name of league reorganisation. That hasn't happened in England since 1905.

I understand the logic behind people saying Leeds and West Brom have a cushion so promote them but every team from 3rd down to 12th (maybe even lower) would have a case they've been denied a fair crack at promotion through the playoffs. It gets even more complicated lower down where leagues are tighter. Haven't League 2 said they're promoting four teams? How does that work with no relegation? Is anyone coming up from National League? They've already stopped the season I think so how will that be decided. I just can't see promotion happening without relegation.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4374 on: May 20, 2020, 04:51:20 PM »
According to someone I know at the FA it has been decided to restart, with all games played at neutral venues. And the venues have been chosen with the plan being clubs play the games nowhere near their main fan base in the hope it stops fans congregating outside grounds. Man Utd will be playing all their games at Old Trafford.
And that's how it should be. Rules are rules. 

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4375 on: May 20, 2020, 04:55:07 PM »
Errr... it's a joke...

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4376 on: May 20, 2020, 04:55:09 PM »
Do we know anymore about the 6 people who tested positive yesterday? Players? Staff? Clubs? etc

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4377 on: May 20, 2020, 04:55:42 PM »
Errr... it's a joke...
I think I got that.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4378 on: May 20, 2020, 05:23:50 PM »
...save for changing numbers of teams in divisions very occasionally.

So, we do have a history of doing exactly what's being talked about. Namely, it wouldn't be that hard to go to 22 teams for a season or two.
It then impacts negatively on the EFL, no PL clubs being relegated reduces their revenue significantly

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4379 on: May 20, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
Give EFL some money to bridge the gap.

 


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