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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 892155 times)

Offline Clive W

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3990 on: May 11, 2020, 05:33:22 PM »
'changing power bloc at bottom six'

What does that actually mean?!
I presume it means that the so called bottom 6 rebels will now be reduced to 2. If it ends up with any mathematical formula deciding relegation then I think that ourselves and Norwich are screwed - whichever method is chosen.
Therefore the FA assume that we will both be forced to vote to continue the season as our only hope of staying up.
I think that the 3rd relegation slot is between WHU and Bournemouth, depending on which ppg system is used. I would think that they would also vote to continue which would just leave Brighton and Watford as “rebels”.
My brain is starting to hurt so apologies if I’ve got this wrong

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3991 on: May 11, 2020, 05:34:20 PM »
Surely PPG systems are agreed upon *before* the start of a season?  This will get messy!

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3992 on: May 11, 2020, 05:36:28 PM »
Surely PPG systems are agreed upon *before* the start of a season?  This will get messy!
It wasn’t

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3993 on: May 11, 2020, 05:40:03 PM »
Would we stay up using the Duckworth Lewis Method?

Offline Clive W

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3994 on: May 11, 2020, 05:40:43 PM »
It would be nice to think that there would be some solidarity here but I’m not sure that will happen.
Can the FA “force” some sort of PPG system into the leagues without a tsunami of legal challenges?

As a cursory glance I’ve looked at the rights attached to the EPL Special Share that the FA holds. Whilst any changes to the relegation clauses in the EPL rules require the consent of the FA, I could not find anything that allows them unilaterally to change EPL rules - it has to come from the EPL. I may have missed some other overriding clause

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3995 on: May 11, 2020, 05:40:46 PM »
I would argue that if "sporting merit" is required then they can't use PPG.

Offline Clive W

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3996 on: May 11, 2020, 05:44:51 PM »
Would we stay up using the Duckworth Lewis Method?
No - we would have the lowest run rate. On account of the fact that most of our players don’t.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3997 on: May 11, 2020, 05:45:44 PM »
Would we stay up using the Duckworth Lewis Method?

Only if there was an R in the month. Shit

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3998 on: May 11, 2020, 05:47:15 PM »
I haven’t seen any mention of the clubs just outside the CL places, surely they would also have an interest in the season being completed rather than decided now. Arsenal and Sheffield United both have games in hand so for them and the teams just above them there is also a likely impact of using PPG.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3999 on: May 11, 2020, 05:50:28 PM »
I haven’t seen any mention of the clubs just outside the CL places, surely they would also have an interest in the season being completed rather than decided now. Arsenal and Sheffield United both have games in hand so for them and the teams just above them there is also a likely impact of using PPG.

Neither have much to gain from voiding though.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4000 on: May 11, 2020, 06:03:34 PM »
What a mess.  PPG is not a fair solution, but if the season couldn't be finished some teams were always going to get screwed over.  The decision is essentially is that us, Norwich & Watford or Leeds & WBA.  The thing with PPG is the league can argue that whilst it's not a perfect system, it the best of one available. 

I had been hoping the season would be voided and we'd stay up.  If it looks like they can force through a PPG solution then I now hope we can find a way to play it out (safely of course).


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4001 on: May 11, 2020, 06:18:48 PM »
They’re now saying that every Premier League club is against playing at neutral venues.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4002 on: May 11, 2020, 06:18:57 PM »
Surely if a PPG system is to be used then it would have to have been created before the season began, when every team was on 0 points. A system cant be invented now, it would be open too to much scrutiny.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4003 on: May 11, 2020, 06:24:45 PM »
Would we stay up using the Duckworth Lewis Method?


It is all about money so it should be decided by the Martin Lewis method.

I suspect we will kick off the season again in June and fulfill the fixtures, which is the fairest thing to do in my opinion.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4004 on: May 11, 2020, 06:40:08 PM »
Surely if a PPG system is to be used then it would have to have been created before the season began, when every team was on 0 points. A system cant be invented now, it would be open too to much scrutiny.
You would hope the threat of legal challenge would put them off, but it seems not.  It does feel like extortion at the moment though - vote to continue playing or we'll relegate you.

 


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