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Offline Clive W

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3930 on: May 10, 2020, 10:54:47 PM »
Daily Telegraph reporting that the government has given the ok to resume in June

Offline Villan82

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3931 on: May 10, 2020, 10:57:22 PM »
I think it’s safe to assume that, even when faced with overpowering legal challenges to relegating teams without playing, the tried and trusted approach of throwing money at us as a hush money will be the outcome.

Relegation is more severe than anything else in football. it is a year of being in the wilderness (minimum). No money can compensate. I detested every moment of it.


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3933 on: May 10, 2020, 11:15:10 PM »
Telegraph


Government to give green light to June Premier League return but growing club opposition to neutral venues

The Prime Minister will reveal details of his roadmap out of lockdown on Monday with plans for a professional sports return next month

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There are suggestions that the dissident clubs will themselves be met with a strong reaction from those who have depicted them as a group of self-interested saboteurs who simply want relegation to be scrapped.

The only vote on Monday will, in line with Fifa’s recommendation, be to extend player contracts which are due to run out on June 30 so that they can cover the remainder of the season. It will need a majority of 14 clubs to approve the Premier League’s plan and the dissident clubs could use it as a protest vote, although that seems unlikely at this stage.

What will not be discussed is voiding relegation this season as a condition of playing the remaining 92 games. It was raised by one club at the previous Premier League meeting, a week last Friday, but was immediately shot down although some clubs do feel it should be on the agenda.
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Offline David_Nab

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3934 on: May 10, 2020, 11:15:29 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8305161/IAN-HERBERT-Premier-League-drawing-line-2019-20-season.html

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'Professional players have been shown to be regularly immunosuppressed,' former Chelsea doctor Dr Eva Carneiro told me four weeks ago.

'This has been demonstrated by both blood tests and the rate and incidence of upper respiratory tract and other infections, which is how a virus like this starts. That's due to the amount of sport they play.’

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3935 on: May 10, 2020, 11:19:15 PM »
Daily Telegraph reporting that the government has given the ok to resume in June

Doesn't quite say that.  The following is the start of the article.

The Premier League has been given a huge boost with Government sources confirming that plans are on track for professional sports to return in June.  On Monday the Prime Minister will reveal in Parliament further details of his roadmap to get out of lockdown, with a government paper on elite sports expected to be published on Tuesday.

These will give the green light for professional sports to return next month, including the Premier League's planned resumption on June 12, subject to safety conditions being met and coronavirus infection rates not rising.  However Boris Johnson’s go-ahead comes as up to eight Premier League clubs are expected to argue against the use of neutral venues and call for ‘Project Restart’ to be put back at a crucial meeting today.
 
Government guidance may weaken their resolve but Telegraph Sport understands that the bottom six clubs have been joined by two others, both significantly higher up the league, in their opposition to the plans with feelings running high after Brighton announced that a third player had tested positive for coronavirus and will have to go into 14-day isolation.



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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3936 on: May 10, 2020, 11:34:56 PM »
Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Results have shown (not theory) that if PPG had been used over the last 10 seasons to decide the last 9 matches, 10 teams would have been relegated that actually stayed up.  Also, Leicester would not have won the Premier league.  Using the results of the first 29 matches to interpolate out to the end of the season is not accurate proven by history.  Therefore it has no sound basis for use.

Offline Clive W

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3937 on: May 10, 2020, 11:45:31 PM »
Daily Telegraph reporting that the government has given the ok to resume in June

Doesn't quite say that.  The following is the start of the article.

The Premier League has been given a huge boost with Government sources confirming that plans are on track for professional sports to return in June.  On Monday the Prime Minister will reveal in Parliament further details of his roadmap to get out of lockdown, with a government paper on elite sports expected to be published on Tuesday.

These will give the green light for professional sports to return next month, including the Premier League's planned resumption on June 12, subject to safety conditions being met and coronavirus infection rates not rising.  However Boris Johnson’s go-ahead comes as up to eight Premier League clubs are expected to argue against the use of neutral venues and call for ‘Project Restart’ to be put back at a crucial meeting today.
 
Government guidance may weaken their resolve but Telegraph Sport understands that the bottom six clubs have been joined by two others, both significantly higher up the league, in their opposition to the plans with feelings running high after Brighton announced that a third player had tested positive for coronavirus and will have to go into 14-day isolation.

You are quite right - I was just going from the headline

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3938 on: May 11, 2020, 12:07:31 AM »
You do wonder about the Premier League when you read comments like:

"The league’s medical protocol remains unfinished but a draft is expected to be presented to clubs for their consideration before further discussions with the League Managers’ Association and the Professional Footballers’ Association later in the day".

"If the medical protocol is agreed it will likely be put to a vote later in the week, with the timescale assigned to Project Restart requiring a return to group training by 18 May".

We are talking about players' and staff health and wellbeing and they seem to be passing it off quite flippantly.  It seems as though they think it can be agreed in a couple of days, if that.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3939 on: May 11, 2020, 12:39:34 AM »
You do wonder about the Premier League when you read comments like:

"The league’s medical protocol remains unfinished but a draft is expected to be presented to clubs for their consideration before further discussions with the League Managers’ Association and the Professional Footballers’ Association later in the day".

"If the medical protocol is agreed it will likely be put to a vote later in the week, with the timescale assigned to Project Restart requiring a return to group training by 18 May".

We are talking about players' and staff health and wellbeing and they seem to be passing it off quite flippantly.  It seems as though they think it can be agreed in a couple of days, if that.

Also consider all these decisions about players running round next to each other , are being made over video chat !

Offline artvandelay

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3940 on: May 11, 2020, 01:11:22 AM »
The fact that the quotes just above were from the t*legraoh and the daily heil somewhat sickens me

Offline Damo70

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3941 on: May 11, 2020, 02:14:34 AM »
Telegraph


Government to give green light to June Premier League return but growing club opposition to neutral venues

The Prime Minister will reveal details of his roadmap out of lockdown on Monday with plans for a professional sports return next month

Quote

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There are suggestions that the dissident clubs will themselves be met with a strong reaction from those who have depicted them as a group of self-interested saboteurs who simply want relegation to be scrapped.

The only vote on Monday will, in line with Fifa’s recommendation, be to extend player contracts which are due to run out on June 30 so that they can cover the remainder of the season. It will need a majority of 14 clubs to approve the Premier League’s plan and the dissident clubs could use it as a protest vote, although that seems unlikely at this stage.

What will not be discussed is voiding relegation this season as a condition of playing the remaining 92 games. It was raised by one club at the previous Premier League meeting, a week last Friday, but was immediately shot down although some clubs do feel it should be on the agenda.
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I wonder if the one club who discussed voiding relegation was West Ham and their charming owners?

Offline OzVilla

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3942 on: May 11, 2020, 04:17:55 AM »
I still think Newcastle could easily be in the void relegation camp. With a bad run they could still mathematically go down and that would completely scupper the Saudi takeover. 

Surely Ashley wouldn't take the risk and the Saudi's certainly wouldn't want him too as it'll all be on the proviso that they are in the PL.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3943 on: May 11, 2020, 06:13:26 AM »
Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

Surely PPG only makes sense if we haven't played the same number of games?  If we had, they'd just use the table as it stood.

Not if they weight home and away games.

Didn't you work out that we'd have 41 points aev?

Not me.

Offline sid1964

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #3944 on: May 11, 2020, 06:23:22 AM »
Is it today when they will make a decision whether to re-start the season or void it?

 


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