How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[VinnieChase84]

Genuine question, heard a lot about 22 team division next season with Leeds and Albion. How do people envisage this working further down the leagues? Two teams up from each division? 94 in the league overall? How do you decide who goes up? PPG?

Believe the leagues current issue is then having to split the tv pot among more teams

[BoVillan esq]

It's turning into something so surreal even David Lynch could not come up with.

I can see another Twin Peaks here.

[VinnieChase84]

Reason for my question (or series of questions) is, playing devil's advocate, why is it fair to prevent teams going up using PPG but not fair to relegate teams?

Why is PPG fair at all?  Leeds imploded last season, Liverpool have lost four on the trot.  Football is completely unpredictable, hence Watford 3 Liverpool 0.  Why is PPG considered any more accurate than any other model put forward.  Do not use it at all.

Last season at the point where games were stopped weren't we something like 10th?

Yep and Sheff United were not in autos

[cdbearsfan]

Genuine question, heard a lot about 22 team division next season with Leeds and Albion. How do people envisage this working further down the leagues? Two teams up from each division? 94 in the league overall? How do you decide who goes up? PPG?

Believe the leagues current issue is then having to split the tv pot among more teams

It wouldn't be that many more as they need to add one to replace Bury, anyway.Maybe they could ask for the parachute payments from the Premier League but, as there are no relegated teams, share them among all the other clubs?

[Meanwood Villa]

Reason for my question (or series of questions) is, playing devil's advocate, why is it fair to prevent teams going up using PPG but not fair to relegate teams?

Why is PPG fair at all?  Leeds imploded last season, Liverpool have lost four on the trot.  Football is completely unpredictable, hence Watford 3 Liverpool 0.  Why is PPG considered any more accurate than any other model put forward.  Do not use it at all.

Last season at the point where games were stopped weren't we something like 10th?

Yep and Sheff United were not in autos

I'm not saying it is fair. I've heard loads of people saying that 22 team Prem next season is a solution. I'm just wondering how those that do see it working further down the leagues.

[VinnieChase84]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

[David_Nab]

Reason for my question (or series of questions) is, playing devil's advocate, why is it fair to prevent teams going up using PPG but not fair to relegate teams?

Why is PPG fair at all?  Leeds imploded last season, Liverpool have lost four on the trot.  Football is completely unpredictable, hence Watford 3 Liverpool 0.  Why is PPG considered any more accurate than any other model put forward.  Do not use it at all.

Last season at the point where games were stopped weren't we something like 10th?

Yep and Sheff United were not in autos

I'm not saying it is fair. I've heard loads of people saying that 22 team Prem next season is a solution. I'm just wondering how those that do see it working further down the leagues.

Well at this point the suggestion is the lower league teams are likely to go bust with no games with fans. As it is L1/L2 looks like confirming this week no more games and Championship teams are edging that way too

The theory now is that any team relegated will go down to the EFL in such a state with the parachute payments and FFP not enforceable that  they should bounce back up easily ...of course the first season we went down and spent a shed load  would show  easier than it sounds.

[john2710]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

[VinnieChase84]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

Hope you’re right

[aev]

I know we’d be fkd whichever way it was calculated but for the other 2 that would be relegated with us does it make a difference if the home and away weighting is used?

Fwiw I don’t believe they would relegate anyone from the PL on PPG but I am amazed that we haven’t even got this far without it being cancelled anyway.

[VinnieChase84]

I know we’d be fkd whichever way it was calculated but for the other 2 that would be relegated with us does it make a difference if the home and away weighting is used?

Fwiw I don’t believe they would relegate anyone from the PL on PPG but I am amazed that we haven’t even got this far without it being cancelled anyway.

If they used home and away form then West Ham go down with us and Norwich

[Ad@m]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

Surely PPG only makes sense if we haven't played the same number of games?  If we had, they'd just use the table as it stood.

[aev]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

Surely PPG only makes sense if we haven't played the same number of games?  If we had, they'd just use the table as it stood.

Not if they weight home and away games.

[Steve67]

Tonight I’m fully believing they will try and relegate us on PPG.
Few points on it though:
1) precedent set from FA lower league being an issue
2) 100% expect us to legally challenge
3) worst case I’d imagine premier league would have to massively financially compensate anyone they try and relegate

Using PPG is feasible if we'd all played the same number of games. Except we haven't.

Surely PPG only makes sense if we haven't played the same number of games?  If we had, they'd just use the table as it stood.

Not if they weight home and away games.

Didn't you work out that we'd have 41 points aev?

[Des Little]

I think it’s safe to assume that, even when faced with overpowering legal challenges to relegating teams without playing, the tried and trusted approach of throwing money at us as a hush money will be the outcome.