How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[dicedlam]

It is vulgar and immoral to even consider starting again when the death rate is so high and still rising.

All in the name of money...

[eric woolban woolban]

And now FIFA is allowing five subs to be used if leagues want to.
Can just see it now. West Ham need a point to stay up, Villa need three. One or the other is down.

Villa one up with seconds left, West Ham sub 4 Snodgrass crosses it for sub 5 Andy Carroll to score a header.

[Billy Walker]

Fair play Billy, that's an interesting read. Would seem to be hypocritical if they change their mind for the Prem!

That's what I'm thinking/hoping.

[Towser]

And now FIFA is allowing five subs to be used if leagues want to.
Can just see it now. West Ham need a point to stay up, Villa need three. One or the other is down.

Villa one up with seconds left, West Ham sub 4 Snodgrass crosses it for sub 5 Andy Carroll to score a header.

will they be able to loan Carroll from Newcastle at this stage of the season?

[VinnieChase84]

Hasn't a precedent been set by the FA in the way it handled the leagues lower down in the football pyramid?  Their rationale for nulling and voiding can be found in Laurence Jones' explanation on the FA's website. Here is what he said about finalising leagues using PPM (Points Per Match) which I assume is what is also known as Points Per Game:

"Points Per Match vs expunging results

I understand that this decision has inevitably caused some clubs, players and supporters to feel a sense of injustice and those feelings are entirely understandable. This is not an easy time for anyone in football and we understand that there is no decision that will suit everyone.

We sympathise with those clubs that are currently occupying promotion spots – or those hopeful of securing promotion. Some believe that it would be better to opt for a Points Per Match [PPM] model to conclude the remainder of the season, as oppose to expunging results.

Both options, and the potential implications of each, were considered at length by all involved.

The truth is that the consequence of clubs being promoted is that others will need to be relegated. The application of a PPM model would result in certain clubs that currently sit above the relegation zone falling into those places.

Equally, there would be certain clubs that currently sit in a play-off position that would not qualify as a result of the PPM Model. The PPM model also doesn’t address the issue of how to deal with play-off matches and how to identify a winner who would consequently benefit from promotion.

In addition, most of the clubs facing relegation will be of the view that they stood a chance of avoiding it due to the number of games remaining in the season and they may consider it to be unfair for them to be denied the opportunity to secure safety through sporting merit.

It is impossible to find a solution that works for everybody, so the decision was based on two main factors. Firstly, the potential financial impact on clubs during this uncertain period, and secondly, the fairest method on how to decide the sporting outcomes for the season, with the integrity of the leagues in mind.

Some have referenced the fact the PPM model has been used to determine promotion and relegation in the past, which is correct, but only in cases where clubs are compared across different leagues, with the season having been completed and all clubs having played their fixtures."

This is very interesting!! Given this is the FA’s public stance on the null and void v PPG - any lawyer would be rubbing their hands together at taking this on if a clubs relegated using PPG in England. This is solid precedent

[Des Little]

Amongst all of this tawdry, repulsive mess I just hope that Aston Villa FC do the right thing. I’m not sure I know how I’d deal with the situation where we failed our staff and supporters in such a monumental moment of history.

[old man villa fan]

Hasn't a precedent been set by the FA in the way it handled the leagues lower down in the football pyramid?  Their rationale for nulling and voiding can be found in Laurence Jones' explanation on the FA's website. Here is what he said about finalising leagues using PPM (Points Per Match) which I assume is what is also known as Points Per Game:

"Points Per Match vs expunging results

I understand that this decision has inevitably caused some clubs, players and supporters to feel a sense of injustice and those feelings are entirely understandable. This is not an easy time for anyone in football and we understand that there is no decision that will suit everyone.

We sympathise with those clubs that are currently occupying promotion spots – or those hopeful of securing promotion. Some believe that it would be better to opt for a Points Per Match [PPM] model to conclude the remainder of the season, as oppose to expunging results.

Both options, and the potential implications of each, were considered at length by all involved.

The truth is that the consequence of clubs being promoted is that others will need to be relegated. The application of a PPM model would result in certain clubs that currently sit above the relegation zone falling into those places.

Equally, there would be certain clubs that currently sit in a play-off position that would not qualify as a result of the PPM Model. The PPM model also doesn’t address the issue of how to deal with play-off matches and how to identify a winner who would consequently benefit from promotion.

In addition, most of the clubs facing relegation will be of the view that they stood a chance of avoiding it due to the number of games remaining in the season and they may consider it to be unfair for them to be denied the opportunity to secure safety through sporting merit.

It is impossible to find a solution that works for everybody, so the decision was based on two main factors. Firstly, the potential financial impact on clubs during this uncertain period, and secondly, the fairest method on how to decide the sporting outcomes for the season, with the integrity of the leagues in mind.

Some have referenced the fact the PPM model has been used to determine promotion and relegation in the past, which is correct, but only in cases where clubs are compared across different leagues, with the season having been completed and all clubs having played their fixtures."

This is very interesting!! Given this is the FA’s public stance on the null and void v PPG - any lawyer would be rubbing their hands together at taking this on if a clubs relegated using PPG in England. This is solid precedent

It also possibly reflects a situation where there is not so much money at stake and the sporting view is thought of higher.  Take the money away and views change.

[Steve67]

The odds are stacked against us.  We are going to be relegated aren't we?

[cdbearsfan]

Who knows. It will most likely come down to who has the most players have to self-isolate. Which makes the idea of relegating teams this season even more of a nonsense.

[cdbearsfan]

Another thing. Is the idea to start the next season at the normal time? If so, we would have players playing in June and probably early July then starting again in August. Then go straight into the Euros next June.

The concerns about player welfare soon disappeared out of the fucking window as soon as there was the possibility of losing a few quid, didn't they?

I hope the likes of Klopp and Guardiola will never have the barefaced cheek to complain about fixture congestion ever again if their clubs vote to resume playing.

[David_Nab]

L1/L2 looks like they will be stopped

Championship look like it may go the same way 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/championship-clubs-want-season-to-be-curtailed-gtf5nxjks

In which case if they jump first then the PL can say well you didn't play games so we are not relegating and promoting

[olaftab]

And now FIFA is allowing five subs to be used if leagues want to.
Can just see it now. West Ham need a point to stay up, Villa need three. One or the other is down.

Villa one up with seconds left, West Ham sub 4 Snodgrass crosses it for sub 5 Andy Carroll to score a header.

I know Snoddy has a good cross on him but it will never reach that far north for Carroll to head it.

[tony scott]

 Now tin helmet time, if the mega teams of the premiership get their way we will be relegated.  This might be an opportunity for us to get properly sorted, we already have 40 percentish squad members with recent championship Experience ,and because the likely hood of the match’s being played behind closed doors, just maybe we could reset regards squad, management, using the parachute payments, and make a quick return in much better shape than we find ourselves presently. This scenario assumes Jack is sold.

[eamonn]

Another thing. Is the idea to start the next season at the normal time? If so, we would have players playing in June and probably early July then starting again in August. Then go straight into the Euros next June.

The concerns about player welfare soon disappeared out of the fucking window as soon as there was the possibility of losing a few quid, didn't they?

I hope the likes of Klopp and Guardiola will never have the barefaced cheek to complain about fixture congestion ever again if their clubs vote to resume playing.

Guardiola lost his mum to the virus recently, didn't he? He seems the type to be decisive and head-strong. Wouldn't be surprised if he resigned should it get to a stage where his players/staff welfare is being compromised by the PL's desire to carry on.

[Hillbilly]

I read there is talk of suspending the use of VAR if the season is played out. Which would be the shit flavoured icing on the cake.